David Bowling's Continuous Charging Device

[a.king21]

Mags: I had this discussion with Verpies long ago. I finally convinced him that the Tesla earthquake machine was not just overunity but massively  over unity. In order to sway a building 10 stories high by 6 inches continuously would require an unbelievable and formidable amount of energy. Let's say Tesla put 5 watts in to his tapper.
Just one magnet attached to the top of the building with a wooden scaffolding pick up coil would generate more that 5 watts and would have no effect on the swaying at all. Yes, the trick is to translate the obvious mechanical deal into electronics. But at least we have a concrete example. Anyhow the law of entropy contradicts the law of conservation of energy in my opinion.
It was this Tesla fact alone that convinced me to research ou - because ou is obviously there big time.
Anyhow I replicated Benitez and am still working on it because it is closely related to this thread.
I agree with Farmhand that batteries do weird things and we have to be really careful.
But at least the earthquake machine gives us food for thought. There just has to be an electric equivalent.

[MileHigh]

Reporter A.L. Benson wrote about this device in late 1911 or early 1912 for the Hearst tabloid The World Today. After fastening the resonator ("no larger than an alarm clock") to a steel bar (or "link") two feet long and two inches thick: He set the vibrator in "tune" with the link. For a long time nothing happened-; vibrations of machine and link did not seem to coincide, but at last they did and the great steel began to tremble, increased its trembling until it dilated and contracted like a beating heart; and finally broke. Sledge hammers could not have done it; crowbars could not have done it, but a fusillade of taps, no one of which would have harmed a baby, did it. Tesla was pleased. But not pleased enough it seems: He put his little vibrator in his coat-pocket and went out to hunt a half-erected steel building. Down in the Wall Street district, he found one; -ten stories of steel framework without a brick or a stone laid around it. He clamped the vibrator to one of the beams, and fussed with the adjustment until he got it .  Tesla said finally the structure began to creak and weave and the steel-workers came to the ground panic-stricken, believing that there had been an earthquake.

You have to take this story with a grain of salt.  The Hearst newspapers were notorious for "manufacturing" news in that era.  They have a term for it, "Yellow Journalism."  It was all about stirring up a frenzy in the public to sell newspapers.

The story also makes no sense.  How can soldiers marching in step cause a bridge to collapse?  The answer is that although they are setting of a harmonic vibration in the bridge, the key point is that for each step they inject more energy than the wobbling bridge can burn off, and hence the amplitude of the oscillation increases for each step.  When you put a small mechanical oscillator on a steel beam that is oscillating at the resonance frequency, the metal superstructure of the building burns off the energy.  So the resonant vibrations never have a chance to increase in amplitude.  It's just a nonsensical story.  It's the Yellow Journalism version of the opera singer shattering the wine glass (same principle involved.)

Can someone share a link with your best test results?

[Magluvin]

Mags: I had this discussion with Verpies long ago. I finally convinced him that the Tesla earthquake machine was not just overunity but massively  over unity. In order to sway a building 10 stories high by 6 inches continuously would require an unbelievable and formidable amount of energy. Let's say Tesla put 5 watts in to his tapper.
Just one magnet attached to the top of the building with a wooden scaffolding pick up coil would generate more that 5 watts and would have no effect on the swaying at all. Yes, the trick is to translate the obvious mechanical deal into electronics. But at least we have a concrete example. Anyhow the law of entropy contradicts the law of conservation of energy in my opinion.
It was this Tesla fact alone that convinced me to research ou - because ou is obviously there big time.
Anyhow I replicated Benitez and am still working on it because it is closely related to this thread.
I agree with Farmhand that batteries do weird things and we have to be really careful.
But at least the earthquake machine gives us food for thought. There just has to be an electric equivalent.

I had thought on making a half mechanical, half electronic to replace the tapper. I decided on a pendulum, but one with a flat metal spring in place of the pivot and just gravity. It would need a solid, heavy base and it can be mounted with the pivot point at the bottom in the base, like the building, or hung like a pen. I lean toward pivot  at the bottom. Also saves construction of a solid frame to pivot from above.

Then put a magnet on the pen, low, close to the base and a coil powered by a circuit to ping it. Then have magnets at the tip of the pen to induce coils to charge the ping circuit. The reason I would like to go the mechanical route is to just see if it could be looped, just as we imagine in Teslas demonstration. It would be interesting to see how much constant resistance or damping at the top of the building that it would take to prevent it from oscillating.  It may be intuitive to see where and how on the pen that the output should be extracted, which could give better insight on modeling the electronic version looped. It may be better to not extract from the tip. Maybe half way down is better. Maybe not when we consider the tiny input and where it is applied. But it shouldnt be left out of the testing.

My Grandfather told me many times about his dad that had 2 motors connected at the shaft and was selfrunning back in the 1910s. He was threatened back then about it by gov and big oil. It was 60 miles out of Pittsburgh where Tesla was working with Westinghouse. Great Grandad had dealings with Westinghouse also for his improvements on the airbrake system, a valve that allowed continuous use of the brakes, as before that they were not continuous use. So I got my influence early. Started with gravity devices in 7th grade. Ive been playing on and off ever since. Graduating into other forms along the way.  Ive settled toward solid state as a main goal, but still ponder motors, gens and mechanical and combinations there of.

Mags

[Farmhand]

But don't forget that the building has an enormous amount of stored energy in it, by all the mass so high up. Much energy is expended to get the building high mass up there.
With Tesla's mechanical "tapper" the real high energy output would come when the building collapsed. 

Any swaying in the top structure would be damped by the generation of electricity if ie. coils and magnets were used as a kind of linear generator and the resonant vibration of the structure if the structure was infinitely pliable (meaning it could sway all it wanted without braking and collapsing) then the oscillator "tapper" would not get the great mass of the building to oscillate past an equilibrium point due to loading and damping, lowering of the quality of the building as a "wobbling oscillator" for want of a better description.

I also agree with MileHigh, the story is probably overstated or exaggerated somewhat, as is the way of mere men.

I have no doubt a mechanical oscillator can in fact add the power of all of it's tiny input motions if the input "pulses" are in tune with the resonant frequency of the structure, and destroy it. In some situations. with others the requirements would be "out of range" of abilities.

It's nothing more than an accumulation of energy through resonance.

Any clams of a generator at the top would be OU should be proved before being taken as fact.

In the "unreal" situation that the building had no Mass of was completely inflexible not much would happen.

Here I admit to MileHigh that infinite's are in fact very useful for contemplation. 

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Oh and convincing a single person means nothing more than you maybe convinced him, he could grown tired of it and just agreed to be done with the inconvenience of the exchange. Regardless convincing one particular person is not proof of anything much. Experiment could show the truth.

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[Farmhand]

I actually put together a three battery setup with a small motor some time ago which showed efficient looping.

Here is the video. Copy this over to EF David. This was only one of many experiments, It's a self regulating loop, based on potentials.
(Watch what happens when I load the motor with my fingers) (also note the power inputs when the coil discharges are reclaimed and when the transformer is used.)
(the switching circuit near the motor is a distraction, it does nothing). I say "there is some power drain" but note the final voltages of the batteries and if they are rising or falling after switching off certain things. There is no claim of over unity or extra energy in the video. Near the end I have a "dig" at the Muller dynamo crew.

Notice at the very end I disconnect the coil recovery charge wire to the series batteries and the input power to the transformer reduced, so collecting the coil discharges increased input in that setup. The transformer is single phase DC switched. Go figure. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YHlA0BNl7M

This setup was put together way back before I knew much at all.

Cheers

P.S. On this particular type of setup I call a "potential switch" or "switch" or potential shifting loop circuit, I have put in a lot of thought and experiment.
It is quite interesting to me, however all my experiments pointed to increased battery capacity due to "unlocked energy in the batteries due to desulfation or battery rejuvenation. But that is not to say I am correct totally or even partially. Just what I think.

And I'm, not trying to say it useless or no point to experimenting with it. I'm just saying a great many things are at play. Not easy to say it cannot be unloced potential due to battery desulfation and rejuvenation.

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