The Problem with Overunity. A different approach.

[Pirate88179]

@ Hans:

Also, very wonderful to see you back here.  This is a very interesting thought process you have going here.  I read somewhere that the Eskimos have over 50 words to describe "ice".  The English language, from supposedly "advanced" people have like 2.  So, if I am correct in my readings of your post, you are saying that how can I think of something "new" and attempt to figure out how it might work if the language has no real words for this device or its operations?  This is intriguing.  I have never even considered this before.  If I were an Aborigine and you attempted to explain how "electricity" worked, we would have no common frame of reference to even begin the process.  So, this lack of a common frame of reference would potentially limit them in their development of new ideas and inventions.  Hard to think of something when you don't have the "mental" words to describe it.  Even harder to explain your idea to someone else then.  This is definitely a
mind opening approach here.  I will give some more thought to this.

Excellent to have you back safe and sound.

Bill

[poynt99]

The big question I am wrestling with is: Is it possible to create a language structure, perhaps as an addendum to our existing language, that allows us to delve into areas as yet unthought of? And as a corollary, how would you go about doing this?

hmm, by the process of creating a language structure that will allow you to go beyond normal thought, then maybe you would have already thought of the things you are now able to think about.



lil' ol' troll

[Liberty]

Interesting discussions out there. 

I find that a limiting factor to new discoveries can be to experiment for new discoveries by using only or mostly knowledge.  Colleges are famous for this.  It is like using only voltage without current to run a device.  There is a lot of potential, but nothing really gets accomplished. 

But I find that one must get as much understanding of a thing as you can, to be able to add to knowledge that you already have to come up with something new.  In otherwords, a lack of understanding would seem to be a limiting factor to new discoveries such as coming up with a method of electrical overunity.

[Haliburton]

the dictionary is full of words that help describe and improve projects.  i believe that the humans just do not use what that have to the fullest.  how many people in this forum know the entire dictionary?  most people when they get out of school still only know the basic language when there is so much more!  then human language will always grow but you have to have something to grow into before you name it!

[loop888]

the barriers of the language, very interesting. 

sometimes when someone cross that barrier people think: "is a genius or is just crazy?", and how far is one thing from the other... when there's no language to define the new idea.

@Liberty, you are right, knowledge is needed to go further, but! is kind of a barrier too. sometimes knowledge help to reinforce the square that block a brilliant idea. reminds me of an old tale: "a group of experts call someone who is absolutely ignorant about the subject to help them thinking something they can't because their knowledge prevent them from innovation".
knowledge help reducing trial&error, but imagination is another very different path.

therefore we made the word "creation".

saludos!!