The Problem with Overunity. A different approach.

[nightlife]

resonanceman, while I do some what agree with you, I have to say that by talking about what we want to build and having others around to debunk it, helps some of us see the flaws that we may have found the hard way. I also like hearing what others have to say as well as I like to hear about expirements they have done and or want to do. Others idea's help give me ideas as well as they help to give others ideas.

I have learned a lot from others and I hope to learn more.

[resonanceman]

resonanceman, while I do some what agree with you, I have to say that by talking about what we want to build and having others around to debunk it, helps some of us see the flaws that we may have found the hard way. I also like hearing what others have to say as well as I like to hear about expirements they have done and or want to do. Others idea's help give me ideas as well as they help to give others ideas.

I have learned a lot from others and I hope to learn more.

Nightlife

I was not talking  about  developing   a basic  idea here ....this  place is great for that .....lots of  ideas  to draw from .......lots of opinions .

I was talking about once  someone   thinks they  have   OU or are at least close to  it . .......that is when things get ugly .
Try  going back and reading a few  threads where someone  claimed OU  ........there is  almost  always a  feeding  frenzy  that would make  a shark  blush .



What part of replication  is  a skeptic required for ? 
Try  counting the posts  of skeptics   in  what passes  for a  replication attempt. 


  gary

[loop888]

welcome to the "Reign of Off-topic" 

[nightlife]

gary, now I believe I know what you are talking about. One thing that we all must understand about over unity is the fact that we first must understand what true energy really is before we can ever claim over unity of it.

If some one claims they get more electricity out then is put in and then claims it to be over unity, they are wrong unless they can explain what electricity really even is. I have yet to find anyone that knows what electricity really even is. I started a thread asking what electricity is and no one could answer it. The same was then asked about what energy really is and again, no one could answer it.

So you see, no one can claim over unity unless they can prove what they are claiming over unity of. We have yet to prove what energy is and until we can, over unity can never be claimed and or proven.

[loop888]

If some one claims they get more electricity out then is put in and then claims it to be over unity, they are wrong unless they can explain what electricity really even is. I have yet to find anyone that knows what electricity really even is. I started a thread asking what electricity is and no one could answer it. The same was then asked about what energy really is and again, no one could answer it.

So you see, no one can claim over unity unless they can prove what they are claiming over unity of. We have yet to prove what energy is and until we can, over unity can never be claimed and or proven.

come on!! 

"electricity" is way off the matter.

overunity (>1) as i catch it refers to obtain: 1 from 0 = 2 from 1 = gain
an overunity device dosnt need to produce "electricity" (wich is a "form of energy" if you ask me, "energy" that "power mechanical devices", if you insist), just move something by it self.

i think anybody understand the "move" concept.

now if you have "something moving" you can go further and produce electricity, or just attach the "self moving device" to whatever you need to put effort on, such a water pump (a mechanical one, without electricity, so we dont need to understand what electricity is!)

anyway i think you put out a brilliant example of how we can block ourselfs following curious lines of thinking. 

saludos!