Repelling "Fan" theory for a magnet motor

[Dact]

I originally posted the following as a reply to member Nightlife in his thread under "News"

Quote from Nightlife: "I shouldn't post this but what the heck."

My sentiments exactly, at this point. I believe too many people have been concentrating too much on designing a CAPTURE device for the forces of magnetism, instead of concentrating on the forces themselves. In almost every case, the opposite polarity somehow cancels out the force of the other. Also, in almost every case, a rotor and stationary stators are used. Why?

In the case of other "forces" we have successfully captured, i.e., water power, wind power, and steam power, we have utilized a blade, or turbine system, to capture the energy. Why not magnetism? Since joining this forum a year ago, I have recalled a demonstration that my seventh grade science teacher showed us. She had constructed a pinwheel shaped "fan" of flat magnets, and introduced a fairly large rod magnet in front of the pinwheel, The magnet pinwheel spun like crazy. However, before she could explain the design and science behind it, a teacher ran in from next door, and screamed at my teacher to turn on our small b & w TV to CBS, and Walter Cronkite. The time was a little after !:00 PM, on November 22nd, 1963. I never saw that device again, but I DID see it, for a short time.

IMHO, I don't see why this would not work. Only one polarity would be "active", from both the pinwheel and the cylindrical manger, and if both were the same, the repulsion would seem to be uniform across the surfaces of the "fan magnets", and if properly angled, would cause the rotor to turn.

I have tried to model this in WM2D, but the closest I could get was to produce the fans from curved polygons angles to produce an offset center of mass, and to introduce an electrostatic force from above. I have attached the model for anyone to modify and experiment with. SOMETHING is definitely causing this model to spin at increasing velocities!

Nightlife, the reason I barged in on your discussion was because you wanted to utilize both polarities instead of just one. Well, if a pinwheel motor was possible, it would use only one polarity as viewed head on, however, there is still the "other side". And besides, you encouraged me to take the chance and post. I'm not getting any younger or healthier! Thank you!

Dact

Maybe I just haven't looked hard enough, but I don't recall ever seeing a discussion here on the "fan" arrangement that I am investigating here. Maybe it's because it's just too simple to even conceive, or maybe it's just common knowledge to everyone but me that this wouldn't work, which is very possible. However, I decided to throw this out here anyway. I DID see something similar in operation when I was a seventh grader in 1963. It DID spin rapidly and that's that!

I have not produced a prototype as of yet, but am ordering the materials tomorrow. I have attached a WM2D sim with which I tried to simulate this idea. Hope it helps. Will also attach some sequential JPEGS from the sim on a later post, if anyone is interested.

I don't know for sure, but it just seems logical that this might just work!

Dact

[wizkycho]

awaiting jpegs

wiz

[seekingknowledge]

Hi sorry not my computer so i cant download the file can you please describe it in a bit more detail? are you sure she was puting any energy into it by wobbling it etc? how very interesting if it was real, i wonder if any other users from your generation also witnessed something simler.

[eavogels]

I'm intrested as well, I send this message to start email notifications. /Eric

[edelind]

It's the same principle Arthur Cote used for his "magnetic wind mill motor". You can download the PDF file from this torrent:
http://www.torrentportal.com/details/3127965/How+To+Manufacture+A+Free+Energy+Device+(Perpetual+Motion).pdf.torrent

I cannot attach it here as it's as big as 1.8 Mb