Johann Bessler information

[eavogels]

Hope this helps.

Yes, it does. Thanks.
Eric.

[Dgraphic911]

I purchased Johns Book PM AAMS and was very disappointed when i read the whole thing and the plan for the wheel was not in their anywhere. 

But seriously, I hope everyone understands that the groundwork that has been layed and the incredible amount of research that has been done by John and others like Bill, is priceless and brings anyone up to speed much much faster. John is being very much open minded to his credit. We are talking about 300 year old texts in a language that noone has used exclusively for 60 plus years. Johns books are a very valuable part of this search and an excellant source of information.

The fact that he is also being open minded about alternative ideas is really exceptional. I think that Hans and Stefan(he said he studied Suterlin ?) would be a very nice addition to helping look at these MT's translations. I know that both Hans and Stefan are also very busy with many other things so i make no assumtions as to whether they would have time.

I don't think its going to be spelled out in the MT's but whether he did all or some i am very interested in any slight variations or sutle nuances in writing style that may suggest something other that what we have now. Whether the translations are the same or slightly different i think it would also reinvigorate discussion about the MT's. Some feel the Mt's should just be disregarded as failed attempts but IMHO he is trying to hint at something. Look here, or there.


Anyway, John, keep up the great work. (if hans will looK at the early 1-25 Mt's translations i would be more than happy to pay the PDF file fee to have it sent to him.)  US$ boo hoo

@all who don't own johns books, Buy them they are priceless.

@Hans and Stefan.  I'm sure i speak for some when i say that any help, at your leisure. Would be Greatly appreciated. Even if its only some small slight variation in one of the MT's translations. We seekers are always hungry for any new information or path of thought.


Thank you,


PS john, can you put the plans in the new book

[DrWhat]

I've said this before and I'll say it again, if you are serious about finding a solution to Bessler's wheel or even if you are generally interested in gravity wheels, you need to get all the publications (from John Collins). These include translations of original Bessler documents, Bessler's drawings, a biography of a large chunk of his life and so on.

When I got the documents I was surprised how much is in there.

[Charlie_V]

Someone linked a website about Bessler and I read a little bit about him.  I had never heard of him until now.  It said that his wheels were hollow and that there was something on the inside that unbalanced them.  It also said that it was the inside of the wheel that held the secret, not the outside.

Some guy supported him, letting him live in a castle, but the guy wanted Bessler to show him what was inside the wheel first.  That guy said it was so simple he was surprised no one had ever thought of it.  Now the website gave an animation of what people speculate was on the inside, I'm pretty sure the animation is not correct.  If it was, someone would have a working Bessler wheel by now. 

So, did Bessler leave ANY clues as to what was on the inside?  It seems to me that this secret died with him - after all, it was the inside of the wheel that was for sale.  The website said that in all accounts the machine was very noisy.

Any thoughts as to what was on the inside, did he leave any clues?

Thanks,
Charlie

[Sprocket]

Bessler left a considerable amount of info - check this site for details:

http://www.orffyre.com/mt.html

Unfortunately, none of these example wheels work as far as I'm aware - they were supposedly produced as "learning material" by Bessler for the school he had planned to open, but never materialised.  Many apparently employ ideas that could lead to a working wheel - Bessler's students (that never were) would no doubt have been told which were useful, we, on the other hand, are left fumbling in the dark...

They are utterly fascinating nonetheless