Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery

[dvder]

magnet battery, reminds me of the hendershot motor device. any comments?

[Tinker]

Ok guys, so what's the deal now?

Does it or does it not work with plastic or other isolators that do not absorb moisture?

Dr Stiffer says on his web page they found the right non organic stuff, but wasn't able to share.

I ask because One claimed it did but nobody seems to have used anything other
than paper...

I tried polycarbonate [SODA BOTTLES], vynal and trash and sandwich bags and then went back to post it notes, see my post above.

And can anyone come up with a better explanation than the Leedskalnin nonsense?

Seems to me that it is indeed "just" a galvanic battery, as was already mentioned a few times...
The use of aluminium instead of iron for the "keeper" seems to confirm that. As does the
need to wet the paper in the cases where that is used as "dielectric" (although wet paper does not
isolate as well and is quite a bit less dielectric) material...

My experience has been that adding excess moisture stops the process.

That said not everyone is working on the same approach and reading/not the same information, I don't have a good grasp on it myself I just do videos.

Be well
TINKER   

P.S.

For the electronicaly challenged i ran across this on keeley today.
http://www.makershed.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=MKSL1&Show=ExtInfo

[Jimboot]

First let me preface my exp with the disclaimer that I have no idea what I am doing. :-) I just love the idea of free energy. My expertise is that as an Internet professional. I specialise in online marketing and online video. I have no training in electronics. The closest I came was an audio engineering course 20 years ago. SO i can use a soldering iron, I own a multimeter for the primary purpose of testing batteries and continuity tests if I am testing a cable.
I demonstrated my experiment to one of my employees today who has an electronics technician background and he was pretty amazed. Not that either of us are qualified but we don't think it is a chemical reaction. However I have no idea if this is a battery or something else but I'd love to know from this group of esteemed professionals  :-)

My highest voltage achieved until today was .5 volts. About an hour ago I got it to 1.45 volts. I first started with a bunch of small neos that I shaped into U and used a post it note and a piece of gal iron for the keeper. Without water I was getting 0.02 volts with water I got 0.50 volts. Yesterday I bought an alnico horseshoe magnet for $35. I was getting fairly similar voltages. THen I wrapped my makeshift neo horseshoe on top of the alnico and got the voltage up to 0.70 . Then I got an old rusty Square and used the ruler as an extra long keeper. No idea what it's made of but it is rusty. I got my gal keeper and used it to sandwich another piece of paper between it and the ruler on the same side where my horse shoe array is. I attached the neg probe to this it went up to 0.80 volts. Then I stuck a washer on top of the horseshoe array and stuck the positive inside. I moved it inside the washer and it measured different voltages at diferent points on the washer. More than once I measure stable readings of 1.35 volts with the plastic insulator between the probe and the washer - no direct contact. My highest reading of 1.45 was achieved with direct contact.


So have I just got a battery or what? Need pix?

Thanks.

[Koen1]

So, what happened here?
Did everyone finally replace the paper with a real dielectric like plastic
and discover there was zero current suddenly?

Or have people finally realised that the Leedskalnin stuff is all nice
for complete laymen but does not really accord with physics entirely,
and that all the experiments he does and the observations he makes
do accord with physics, even though his unfounded deductions lead
to different conclusions? Or actually inductions, since he never once
actually tried to prove his assumptions, he just interprets normal
and understood phenomena incorrectly and ascribes magnetism
a special "magical" set of properties that he nerer once proves or tests.
It may be that on the quantum level current could be reduced to spin coherence
and spin field interactions, a.k.a. magnetism. But if that is so, then Leedskalnin
still does not show or prove it in any way.

I guess I still agree with Tinu that whatever output you're getting is most likely
either a galvanic effect due to the moisture in the air (which seems to be supported
by the observation that it does not work if the air humidity is extremely low),
or a form of "contact potential" which indeed happens to the contact surface
between different metals under sufficient pressure (and the magnets do indeed
apply a pressure to the contact zone). And possibly a combination of the two.
And I also agree with him on the point of Leedskalnin: nice exercise for the ignorant,
but nonsense to those with a little more background knowledge (and experience).

Oh, and that "perpetual motion holder"? WTF? It's a simple iron magnet!
There is nothing "perpetually moving" in there. It's just a homemade, iron,
"permanent magnet". And when the keeper is removed, the magnetic field
change influences the little demo motor which is not surprissing since it
is a wheel with magnets attached to it. Also, it is a known fact that the
change in a magnetic field induces a current in a coil, so it is not at all
surprising that a tiny current can be seen at the coil side when the magnetic
field is changed. And obviously the flux in a closed flux loop does not
degrade by far as much as it does when there is an air gap in the "core",
which is what the U-shaped iron core is. So you've got a 1:1 transformer
with the coils hooked to eachother and an air gap which is closed with
a piece of core segment (the keeper), and when you apply a current pulse
obviously there will be flux, and when you remove the core segment obviously
there will be a resultant current in the coils. That seems elementary...
What's so special about it?

And please don't start repeating "it's all magnetism, there is no current, because Ed said so" again.

[Jimboot]

First let me preface my exp with the disclaimer that I have no idea what I am doing. :-) I just love the idea of free energy.

Ok I am now getting 1.95 volts. I ditched the horseshoe. Whilst I am a complete noob I don't think this is a chemical reaction as there seem to be field related readings. i.e. when using the horseshoe there is a 'dead' spot on the underside of the keeper directly in the middle of the two poles. Also I have used various different types of metal as the keeper. rusty old hacksaw blades, gal plated iron, zinc plated, rusty steel, anyway the readings don't vary as long as the keeper is magnetic. Also I have used filtered (not distilled), tap water and ginger beer as the fluid and there is no change. I also get a reading using plastic instead of paper but it is much lower. A mate said I was picking up ambient AC from different other leads power etc in my shed. However I get the same reading if I move it away from all AC potential influences.

I achieved the 1.95 volts using two 5mm cylinder neos and two washers some paper or cardboard and a few drops of water.

Sooooo how do I get the charge out to power something? Anyone? Anyone at all? I suppose I should put some pix up eh?