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Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery

Started by 0ne, May 25, 2008, 09:14:52 PM

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tinu

Quote from: Jimboot on July 09, 2008, 07:43:27 AM
The attached pic is what I was talking about with getting a charge through the insulation. I took a bunch of video tonight so I'll get it up tomorrow... so to speak :-)

That particular insulator (the yellow one) is awful in terms of un-desired effects. It retains a lot of moisture and dirt on its surface. I don?t think it conducts through it but it offers a good electrical path around; anyway, never took the time to see what?s exactly about as I don?t think it?s really worthy.

If you?re a smoker (yeah, I know it?s unhealthy but look as some minor advantages  ;D), take off the outer foil on the pack and use it as a real insulator; it still retains a lot of static electricity (some patience and no more mechanical stress pls after placing it) but otherwise it is an excellent insulator at these voltages. It shall quickly solve several main questions. Please post back.

Best regards,
Tinu

Jimboot

Quote from: sandor on July 09, 2008, 09:43:56 AM
Very silly. At first I thought you were making an elaborate joke but it looks like you are taking this seriously. First of all, it looks like you have electric and magnetic fields confused. Magnetic fields form closed loops, always closed loops, the divergence of the magnetic field is 0 because there are no magnetic monopoles though some people seem to think such may be formed at high energy levels.

Ok, if you're measuring a voltage that is not 0 there are two explanations. One, you have formed an actual galvanic cell. It's a battery - when the voltage went up when you gripped it with your bare hands that only proves it more - that's what was originally called 'animal electricity' back in the 1800s. Two, it's the floating voltage of the DMM. Digital multimeters tend to drift and may record a surprisingly large voltage if the two leads are not connected together by any low impedance connection (for instance touching them together). The semiconductors need a solid voltage to get a definite reading, even if that voltage is 0, so if you just have two wires dangling it may drift all over the place. You won't see this with a classic coil-based multimeter. As to why your new DMM measured a higher voltage with lower current, or lower voltage with higher current, I don't remember which, it's just because the device's internal impedance is different. If one of them had huge input resistance and the other had it not so huge, well, the one with the huge resistance would be able to drift more in voltage. If you try your experiment with a non-magnetized piece of iron, you'll be able to prove to yourself that nothing is going on as a result of the magnetic field. A steady magnetic field does not induce any electromotive force.

Hi Sandor - I did explain in an earlier post that I am a noob so keep the insults to yourself thanks.

I'm not claiming anything. I will see where I can pick up an analogue mmeter. Thanks for the feedback.

Magnethos

Here you can see another free energy technique. They guy is getting 3,75 volts from the air
Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_EotqAn1M

resonanceman

Weeks  ago   someone   here  brought up   something  about  magnets and  zinc .

It  brought  up a  memory .
I remember reading  something  about someone  using magnets and  zinc  to  create  electricity

It had been a while

I looked  and  didn't find anything

I looked a  little more   each of the next  few days






Finally   I  stumbled  across it again

http://www.rexresearch.com/meyers/meyers.htm

http://rimstar.org/sdenergy/rmeyers/

I am  attaching  2 PDFs

One   is  pretty much the same information  as  on the URLs above

The other  PDF  I am adding  to make it a little  easier to  compare with  figure 4 in   the   drawings .
The last PDF  is  about the  Grey tube .
The  Grey tube  was said  to power  an 80 HP  motor

If you  study  the  Grey tube  and   Figure  4  I think you  will see they are  VERY similar
The   Miller  version  uses  tubes   about half filled  with mercury  ...... as   electricity   passed though   these tubes some  murcury would  be ionised  making  the  tube  lower resistance
This  tube is  also   a rectifier ......one of the  requirements  of the Grey tube .........it  has to be fed pulsating DC ........NO  AC
The   construction  of the  collection  grids  is  very different  in the   2  designs .........but  I think their function  would be  similar .
In my  opinion the  biggest  difference   is the mercury  vapor  .......it  would  allow the  Miller version to  run on lower voltage .


gary

Jimboot

Quote from: sandor on July 09, 2008, 09:43:56 AM

Ok, if you're measuring a voltage that is not 0 there are two explanations. One, you have formed an actual galvanic cell. It's a battery - when the voltage went up when you gripped it with your bare hands that only proves it more - that's what was originally called 'animal electricity' back in the 1800s. Two, it's the floating voltage of the DMM. Digital multimeters tend to drift and may record a surprisingly large voltage if the two leads are not connected together by any low impedance connection (for instance touching them together). The semiconductors need a solid voltage to get a definite reading, even if that voltage is 0, so if you just have two wires dangling it may drift all over the place. You won't see this with a classic coil-based multimeter. As to why your new DMM measured a higher voltage with lower current, or lower voltage with higher current, I don't remember which, it's just because the device's internal impedance is different. If one of them had huge input resistance and the other had it not so huge, well, the one with the huge resistance would be able to drift more in voltage. If you try your experiment with a non-magnetized piece of iron, you'll be able to prove to yourself that nothing is going on as a result of the magnetic field. A steady magnetic field does not induce any electromotive force.

Btw I don't have two wire just dangling in space! I have one clipped on and another magnetised to the end. When the one in the pic is removed it measures 0 volts. When it is attached the way it is it has measured over 2 volts. I don't "grip' the magnet when measuring. Sheesh I maybe a noob but that doesn't mean I'm a dickhead.

btw your explanation also does not account for a washer, some water, a piece of paper and a mag getting much higher readings than a simple Gal cell made from the same materials (minus the paper) .

I'm just following up on Ones design. Don't shoot the messenger.