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Free Energy Revealed - Magnet Battery

Started by 0ne, May 25, 2008, 09:14:52 PM

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xee

@ Jimboot
Thanks for posting your results. Most experienced researchers would say what you claim is impossible and you must be making a mistake. Maybe you are, but I think you seem to be doing the right things and asking the right questions. I have over 30 years doing electronic research and development and it is from the unexplainable things that you learn the most. I am looking forward to your videos. Maybe with more information the explanation will be more obvious.

Jimboot

Quote from: xee on July 10, 2008, 04:37:04 AM
@ Jimboot
Thanks for posting your results. Most experienced researchers would say what you claim is impossible and you must be making a mistake. Maybe you are, but I think you seem to be doing the right things and asking the right questions. I have over 30 years doing electronic research and development and it is from the unexplainable things that you learn the most. I am looking forward to your videos. Maybe with more information the explanation will be more obvious.


Hey Xee,
The experienenced researchers are probably still right! I guess I am being a little selfish here and learning as I plunder along. Looks like I have to find a meter with a coil now. I just through an old one away two weeks ago! DOH! Had no idea the digital ones could be subject to gazing at their own navels.:-) So it's good to find out about this stuff.

Jimboot

Quote from: Magnethos on July 09, 2008, 07:44:13 PM
Here you can see another free energy technique. They guy is getting 3,75 volts from the air
Check it out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_EotqAn1M

First of all I thought you were 'takin the piss' as we say down here but I have to build one of those now! That looks fascinating. I guess I had a follow up question for the post earlier that thought I was only measuring radio waves... my question is if it meters isn't that usable energy? Reminds me of the minor shocks when you install the TV aerial. Do they get more volts just before a thunderstorm I wonder.

Jimboot

Quote from: tinu on July 09, 2008, 09:48:36 AM
That particular insulator (the yellow one) is awful in terms of un-desired effects. It retains a lot of moisture and dirt on its surface. I don?t think it conducts through it but it offers a good electrical path around; anyway, never took the time to see what?s exactly about as I don?t think it?s really worthy.

If you?re a smoker (yeah, I know it?s unhealthy but look as some minor advantages  ;D), take off the outer foil on the pack and use it as a real insulator; it still retains a lot of static electricity (some patience and no more mechanical stress pls after placing it) but otherwise it is an excellent insulator at these voltages. It shall quickly solve several main questions. Please post back.

Best regards,
Tinu

Hey Tinu - do you actually mean foil on the inside of the pack? I'm in AU just want to make sure we are talking about the same thing here.

froot

One wrote:

QuoteFor those that think it is only a chemical reaction:

Water has an atomic structure set in such a way that it makes it diamagnetic. This is a fact. When you add a diamagnetic substance between two magnetised objects such as two metal plates, there is not a chemical reaction. You are simply using water as an "insulator" or "dielectric" like a capacitor, and the electromagnetic interactions between the two metal plates have to pass through the water. The water helps slow the electromagnetic interaction and it actually builds up a collection of electromagnetic particles near the two plates. Much like a capacitor, but with "electricity" running both directions in the capacitor.

I think the hardest thing for people to understand is the FACT that every single object on Earth is electromagnetic.

Ok so you obtain a reading with dry paper and plastic as a dielectric, then you obtain a larger reading with paper soaked in water as a dielectric. From what I deduce from this so far is that you need a magnet and a metal plate in close proximity with each other held apart by a dielectric of sorts in an arrangement as depicted above. As far as I'm concerned I personally would be prepared to look further into this concept and it's plausability if this system would work with an airgap as a dielectric, according to your claims so far there is no reason why this shouldn't work. A water dielectric will result in some sort of chemical reaction between 2 different metals and a resulting EMF, so in that system your newly discovered phenomenon has been contaminated with a well known phenomenon. You should also try eliminate out thermoelectric effects (Seebeck and so on) by comparing readings at different temperatures. At this stage it seems as though the system's ability to deliver power is limited by the dielectric itself (nothing capacitive about it, ok mybe a pF or 2). You need to further your experimenting under varied conditions targeting the concept you are claiming, at this stage there is far too much ambiguity for a thumbs up.

I really do appreciate people who come forward with observations they have made, let's be honest it is progressive and goal orientated. There will be cases where these observations will turn out to be nothing new but then again maybe something big may crop up. The problem is - some readers have no sense of tact when it comes to commenting on people's observations while people that present their observations claiming this and that do not take criticism very kindly and the whole topic becomes a waste of precious reading time, which I've seen here time and again. Moderation on this forum is non-existant. Lets keep the observations coming, the crit posative and the acceptance of success/failure honerable.