Bedini motor, debunked by MythBusters.

[mike3]

Because most of you armchair scientists want something out of nothing and there's no such thing. Bedini's systems work because the energy is extracted and then converted/stored. As the saying goes you have to invest some money to get money back and so is the case with the energy.

But even then you can invest the profits back in to grow the business and make more money.

So the Bedini motor, if it is "overunity", or extracts more energy than is put in, you should be able to give it an initial push and then you should be able to hook the out to the in and it should keep spinning up. If it is "under-unity" then it is worth no more than an ordinary electrical motor.

[mike3]

utilitarian,

If you wish to use my words, please use them in context and exactly quoted, otherwise this discussion is over.

I said "lackeys of the corporate fascists"...

The guys might be good natured (although I take that with a grain of salt) but they are far from competent or unbiased which is evident from the Bedini fiasco. They have obviously approached the issue with already determined outcome which is clear from the intro to the segment where one of them (is it Adam?) is talking about the "Holy Grail of free energy" while other (Jaime?) remains the adamant skeptic.

It is just sad how scripted the whole thing was and bluntly obvious that the experiment would fail because they did not replicate it to the letter, missing to include certain parts/components, etc. That is NOT scientific and claiming that they are is hypocrisy, whether you like it not. Mythbusters might have (or not) "busted" other things successfully, but having failed to be truly scientific with Bedini one indicates to me that all the other claims they have "busted" should be re-examined as well.

In any case, what I'm talking about are facts, and it is all there recorded for posterity and now available on YouTube to be examined. Perhaps some day we'll see a rebuttal although I am not holding my breath...

I do agree with you that the M/Bers test is not scientific and not honest. That thing they built looks nothing like a "Bedini motor" at all. Makes me want to build the motor just to test it right (build it right to the point where other people would say it is achieving "over unity" and then hook the out to the in and see what happens.). Even though I don't believe it's actually going to give any sort of "free" energy.

[mike3]

It works?  Do you mean that you can get the wheel to spin for a while, until batteries are depleted, or do you mean it runs forever, producing excess energy from apparently nothing?  If you mean the latter, well, maybe you should share your laws-of-physics-shattering discovery with the rest of the world rather than keeping it for yourself, because I am sure all the poor people of the world could use free energy.  If you mean the former, well, then Mythbusters is not so wrong.

Two things:

1. Mythbusters may have gotten the right conclusion (the motor does not work), but they reached it through the wrong method. They did not build the motor right. In fact what they built doesn't look ANYTHING like what I've seen for how a "Bedini motor" should look. So for the sake of scientific honesty and nothing more they should revisit this one and build it right. Otherwise they look like a joker too.

2. How can you "share it with the world" when anything can be faked? There would be too much suspicion even if you did have a working device. Nobody would attend the demos. People who have made real revolutionary discoveries often have had them swept under the rug for a long time. Not saying the BM is a revolutionary discovery, just talking about what happens.

[Michelinho]

@ mike3,

I would suggest a long visit on Jean Louis Naudin's site for proof of overunity on the Newman Motor and on many other designs.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/index.htm

Take care,

Michel

[alan]

You should download EFTV part 6 from the ed2k network (use emule):
Energy_From_The_Vacuum_Part_6_Inside_Radiant_Energy.mp4

Maybe it makes sense to you all, but not to me.