Specific Pre-build questions

[22350]

If you're using electrolyte your wasting your time.  It's impossible to achieve overunity when you have massive current flow, are consuming electrolyte, and are generating heat.  Stick with adjustable frequency and pulse, and bifilar choke coils that Meyer's used.

Car that runs on water

If I can't generate 14 LPM from a cell, it won't do what I need it to do.  If you have another option that generates that sort of production, with the power that Bob's cell does, I would love to know about it.  Right now I am having trouble finding anyone who has a cell that does anything like that.

I am also having trouble getting confirmation on Bob's cell. Trying to contact him directly.  I would just pay for one of his cells to skip over this part of the process.

[vdubdipr]

if you skipped the step of building it yourself maybe youd feel less accomplished when you do.... the boyce cell is extremely precise and has a difficulty level of 10 out of 10. are you sure  you know enough to use a boyce cell as a starting point? i definatley dont want to discurage you!  but i mean damn... have you made a generator to boost a car? have you boosted a car? asking questions is not  the way to go, read research and then do it agian, do you have the tools and equipment to make a boyce cell? there is some considerably costly equipment that you must have!   my personal advice: learn how electrode surface area and electricity effect each other, figure out how to drop current flow threw wiring, and finally find somthing or make something that is air tight, start small dude, you need too because there are alot of tricks  and skills, hand skills that you can only develop by hands on practice, asking a question and getting an anwer will not give you all that you need to know, it sounds like you need alot more knowlege   b4 you even touch some stainless steel, or youll be sorry, like im a very on point construction field independant contractor, ive done it all and id still be hesitant about replicating aboyce cell when you could just make like 10 smaller booster stye electrolysers and utilize series and   parallel tekniques to get the same effect  peace

[HeairBear]

For definite results, and very inexpensive to build, may I suggest a GEET system. It has been replicated hundreds of times and proven to work with little effort. A simple google search will give you all the info you need. It has to be tuned to what type of fuel you use, whether it's watered down gasoline or Coke and ketchup. Best of all, there are no emissions! You can run it indoors if you have too. It's always good to have a backup plan if the water fuel cell doesn't pan out.

You might try your hand at building a Bedini motor too. Whats nice about the Bedini motors is the scalability of a simple design. It's also a great tool for learning the basics of Radiant Energy circuits. Having a good understanding of electronic circuits is a must for any water fuel cell enthusiast and the Bedini School Girl motor is a wonderful way to get started. It has also been replicated hundreds of times with information readily available on the net. You may also purchase one if your not up to building one.

Ever heard of a crystal radio? They work without any power connected to them and have been around since radio was invented. Another neat little circuit is the joule thief. It can light several LED's with one dead AA battery even though LED's require over 2V to operate. Understanding these devices may help you in the long run.

Cheers!

[22350]

if you skipped the step of building it yourself maybe youd feel less accomplished when you do.... the boyce cell is extremely precise and has a difficulty level of 10 out of 10. are you sure  you know enough to use a boyce cell as a starting point? i definatley dont want to discurage you!  but i mean damn... have you made a generator to boost a car? have you boosted a car? asking questions is not  the way to go, read research and then do it agian, do you have the tools and equipment to make a boyce cell? there is some considerably costly equipment that you must have!   my personal advice: learn how electrode surface area and electricity effect each other, figure out how to drop current flow threw wiring, and finally find somthing or make something that is air tight, start small dude, you need too because there are alot of tricks  and skills, hand skills that you can only develop by hands on practice, asking a question and getting an anwer will not give you all that you need to know, it sounds like you need alot more knowlege   b4 you even touch some stainless steel, or youll be sorry, like im a very on point construction field independant contractor, ive done it all and id still be hesitant about replicating aboyce cell when you could just make like 10 smaller booster stye electrolysers and utilize series and   parallel tekniques to get the same effect  peace

First of all, let me say that I really do appreciate the advice and I hear you.  I see the construction method of the Boyce cell and I doesn't strike me as excessively complicated.  There are some specific parts that need to be machined to high tolerances, but no rocket science.  The circuits are available off the shelf, but that iron coil looks a little tricky.

That being said, there are some other difficult things going on there, which I know require experience.  I feel that those things are specific to the Boyce cell.

So you might ask: Why does he want to use the Boyce cell so bad?  It is because I have yet to find another cell which will do what I need to, to complete my project.

My project is to run a 200cc engine on hydroxy.  I am not interested in boosting cars or running generators, just that one application.  Working on any cell, which will never apply to that application, is just not something I want to spend time on. I would rather work on a failed Boyce cell and then start over.

I have to know that I am applying my time to something that will move me towards my goal.

Anyway, i am pretty crafty

[vdubdipr]

cool cool, tahe a look at this idk if youve read this or not but the is a good deal of ifo on boyce and alot of other things that you want to know here, u sugjest reading it all 4 times
http://merlib.org/mirror/pgfed     bob is detailed in section 7 about halfway down
hope this helps   peace