This video pretty much says it all.

[innovation_station]

silly site wants me to post it twice


hummm....

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[epwpixieq-1]

Have you actually read the report you are posting?  I ask, because it is not exactly thorough.

1.  The testing company, per instructions, relied only on the on-board computer as far as documenting gas efficiency.  So no actual measurement of gasoline used was done.  If the onboard computer is not giving true readings, then the test results will not be accurate.

2.  The testing company, per instructions, did not examine the booster device at all.  This means there could have been fuel hidden in the booster device being added to the system.

Obviously, this is speculation, and we do not know what really happened.  But I am curious, why didn't the Check Engine LLC outfit just pay to have a real test done?  Why did they skimp on these vital details?

Usually measurements done with computes are quite accurate. In the rare case when they are not, usually due to some system misconfiguration, there will be d(x) inherited systematical functional error. As this error is permanent for the given state of the system, it will change the base line as well as the tests ( as given on page 3 in the report ) . From this follow that if there is any system imperfection inherited in the measurement it will be in the both tests data so it is illogical to say and imply that the computer system may error only the part of the data measuring possible fuel savings.

SAS

[utilitarian]

Usually measurements done with computes are quite accurate. In the rare case when they are not, usually due to some system misconfiguration, there will be d(x) inherited systematical functional error. As this error is permanent for the given state of the system, it will change the base line as well as the tests ( as given on page 3 in the report ) . From this follow that if there is any system imperfection inherited in the measurement it will be in the both tests data so it is illogical to say and imply that the computer system may error only the part of the data measuring possible fuel savings.

SAS

I agree that any error with the computer would also be exhibited in the control, and also, probably, the ability to tamper with the computer is something outside the capabilities of most small outfits like this.  Still, it is possible that when the booster is activated, it could affect the computer in some way.  So why not simply measure fuel consumption in a way that you are sure is free from tampering?

Anyway, the non-examination of the booster device is what I have a real problem with.  There is nothing to indicate that the booster tested is the same device that is being sold.  This is a major flaw in the test.

[KilltheMessenger]

The only thing I have to go on, is logic.  If they could build any device that would give positive results, then why wouldn't that be the device they are selling to everyone? At $1200 each, it would be hard to not make a profit, unless they used titanium, and gold parts in the real device. I don't think that this process is a matter of what metals are used. Most all metals will produce HHO, but only the best will work for a long time without degrading into mush.  Nobody is saying that HHo can't be created, or that large amounts of HHO can't be created, or that the HHO isn't explosive and carries a huge amount of energy. All that is being said, is that the load on the alternator, needed to generate a large enough supply of HHO to benefit most engines, is never going to balance out to over unity. The amount of energy created, is going to be less than the energy needed to create that energy. There will be a loss if the energy is converted to any other form.

  There is nothing to indicate that the booster tested is the same device that is being sold.  This is a major flaw in the test.

[newbie123]

 Who in their right mind would sell multiple  HHO booster devices to a Sheriff's Dept. knowing the device doesn't work?




Ok, Let's assume that we don't know everything about nature/physics for a second...

What else could actually be going on inside the engine of a HHO booster vehicle to improve performance, other than the actual energy from the Hydrogen.   

Could the HHO gas be cooling the engine, and improving the performance?

Could the compression or heat of the engine + hydroxy gas + water be adding energy somehow?

Is steam adding energy as well?


If the system does actually work, there probably xtra energy is coming from something other than HHO gas.