URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[gotoluc]

@nightlife
Being able to place a charge in water as the videos you listed show, has "Nothing" to do with the "Energy Capacity" of the water. It is simple to get water to hold a charge, but it does not increase the energy available from it.

Hi DrStiffler, thanks for dropping in. That is a good point also.

I would be interested in your opinion of this circuit and what has been shared to date.

Luc

[gotoluc]

I'm a little bit confused about the picture in post 1.

How is the neodyn magnet exactly connected?
atlantex

Hi atlantex, thanks for posting your concern. The Neo magnet is not needed and has now been removed.

Luc

[gotoluc]

Hi Luc,

Great work from you and great input from others. Further to nightlife's suggestion of energizing water I wonder what effect using freshly Ozonated water would have on the effect. Many people are mis-informed about ozone, it is VERY, reactive to most inorganic materials, however Ozone is one of natures wonders for purging the planet from toxins. I don't know if a cheap (O3) water ozonator would saturate enough O3 into the water to make a difference but It might be interesting

Good luck and keep up the great work folks

Will

Hi eastcoastwilly, thanks for looking at this topic and sharing your thought. I would think your idea deserve to be tested, why not
I'll write it on my things to test list. Thanks for sharing.

Luc

[gotoluc]

Hi Luc and OTHERS,

I guess no forum is immune to off topic posts.  I was truly hoping things would be different here with better moderating of the posts.  Bottom line:  Although HHO and electrolysis is a great concept, and just one workable solution to eliminating the use of fossil fuels, this thread was supposed to ONLY be for determining/developing/replicating and maybe enhancing the circuit used in S1R's project.

TO EVERYONE:
The action between water vapor and a plasma arc IS NOT instantaneous disassociation of water into its components, hydrolysis of any kind and really NOT the topic of this thread!

It is very similar to Flash Steam, if not flash steam itself!  It is very similar to Lightening and Thunder.  Lightening and Thunder is the discharge of high energy which pushes the air molecules between the water vapor molecules in the atmosphere at supersonic speeds.  Thunder is essentially a sonic boom which we not only hear, but also FEEL its concussion.

This is not a chemical - combustion reaction... it is a physical - concussion reaction with enough concussive force to push a piston down.

Now, can we please get back to developing the best circuit which Luc started, and work together to focus on this ALONE.  There are a million other forums out there for awesome alternative energy systems, but extraneous to this particular thread.

As S1R's videos already showed, he IS running the Briggs & Straton engine on water ALONE.  We just don't know what components are in the silver painted "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter" container, which is what Luc felt he had a handle on, and started this thread.

PLEASE!  Let's work together and help each other moving forward with what Luc started and not deviate from the task at hand... to recreate the circuit in the "mystery container."  The rest of the project is already known.

Respectfully,
Geo

Hi Geo, you have a good understanding and many good points, is that really a "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter" container

Let us not loose focused here

Luc

[gotoluc]

Hi Stephan,

>Hi Luc and Ossi,
did you remove the internal resistor from the sparkplug first
before doing your experiments ?

- My spark plug does not have any resistor. It measures 0 ohms.

> Do you think you can still get the required input power down ?

- Most definately. But I would have never believed I could get water to explode on demand even with the 1-1.5 amp at 12 volts I am using. Seeing and hearing is believing guys. This is very real indeed and practically very simple to replicate once you understand the key requirements.

> It would be interesting to know, if also only alone with the
high voltage low current discharge the water could be blown up like
this maybe via a bigger charged capacitor ?

- The goal must be to come up with the best circuit for the least energy input. At this stage I don't know if this will mean it will be a capacitive discharge or power on demand circuit. I think that maybe a power on demand circuit with DC pulses at the correct frequency, pulse width and voltage may result in the least energy input. Plenty of lab work to do for all of us but because this is the first alternative energy system that I now believe is truly practical for the home experimenter to build and use, we need to stop all the speculation and guessing and theory and simply analyse technically what has been achieved practically as the overall system and process is very simple. So simple that if you are from a technical or scientific background, you would never beilieve it...

> Also, why is the spark blown out ?

- Simply because it is a very violent explosiong of the water. It is a true and real explosion indeed!!! What you are seeing that is poorly captured by the video is the extremly fast expanding gases of a violent explosion that also creates a loud bang like a fire cracker! It does have a red colour to the gas that does not get captured by the camera as well. I used my digital still camera which does video but no sound. If I get time I will try and capture it on my digital handy cam with the sound and better quality. Just a pain to capture it to PC and convert then upload to youtube but it is important to show.

> As Ossi has real high DC power at his cap, the spark should be able
to burn after the firing of the hv coil ?

- No. Why? The process is simply this and why it can easily be adapted to any combustion engine with a standard ignition system. All you need is a DC voltage supply of a few hundred volts, even just 100 volts, sitting across the spark plug in parallel with the car's normal and standard ignition system. Put water through the fuel system instead of petrol. When the normal HV spark from the standard ignition system occurs, it will ionise the air-water mixture between the spark plug gap and provide a conductive path for the DC voltage supply to flow. When the DC supply flows through the ionised air-water mixture, it instantaneously dissassociates the H2O and ignites the dissassociated hydrogen and oxygen gases. This explosion causes a violent expansion of the gases which pushes the engines cylinders down and drives the motor action of the engine in sequence.

- So the water does NOT burn. It explodes instantaneously and will continue to explode for every ignition pulse as long as there is moisture in the gap. When the moisture is gone there is no explosion. But it does not take much moisture and it seems that even a very humid rainy day may have enough moisture in the air for some small but limited ignitions. I am sure the current air humidity percentage will effect the efficiency of the overall process. Heat and steam work very well but is not needed as an external input as the spark plug gets so hot it starts to heat the moisture in the gap on it's own in a very short time. Please understand that I agree that this is unbelievable but now I am doing this on the lab bench and it is very real and very simple.

> Or is the explosion of te water itsself blowing out the water ?

- Yes, exactly! The water itself explodes and is blowing out very voilently!

> In the video with the 24 x 9 Volts batteries the spark did continue to
burn when ignited, so where is the difference in this water firing ?

I don't know what is going on in that video but I don't think it really fit's in this very valuable thread. Luc well and truly needs a pat on the back.

> Luc and Ossi,
do you think the spark explosion is big enough
to propell a cylinder, so a motor could be done running
on this water explosion ?

- I have no doubt about it now. If you have read the pdf based on S1R9A9M9 work, I believe this can be done. He did it with little electronics knowledge and standard components and equipment. With just a little engineering, the whole process can be made so much more efficient and simple and applied to any combustion engine. The pdf can be found here.

http://waterpoweredcar.com/watercar.pdf

Regards,

Ossie

WOW Ossie, you are my hero. Thanks for the excellent written report and support. I knew it wasn't going to be an easy task to do but you are a God send to help this way.

Thank you thank you thank you, Amen

Luc