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[AhuraMazda]

On multiple discharge:
If you want to discharge the capacitor 3 times, you will have to be very quick to charge it up.
I don't think it is practical.
My proposal is to charge the 3 capacitors prior to reaching TDC and firing them at desired intervals.
This puts heavy demands on the circuit design.

[gmeast]

Hi gmeast,

Thanks for your average current draw calculation. Since the way I understand your circuit, all power comes from the inverter, can you measure inverter current draw from the battery to compare it with the calculation? I am not sure if it will be pulsing or will be filtered by the inverter internal capacitors, etc.

Hi insane4evr,

I have taken the measurement with an analog amp meter and here are the results with final calcs in watts:

First the pulse power calcs again:
5,000 Rpm = 83.33cycle per sec.X 4-Cyl / 2(for 4-stroke engine) = 166.7 pulses per sec
&
12.5 ohm current limiter to Mosfet through 134V (charge) = 10.72 A
&
scope says 2.5 ms per pulse charge but it's a 'ramp up' = 1/2 = 1.25 ms per pulse (ave)
so ... duty cycle is 1.25 ms/pls X 166.7pls/sec. = .208 (this is now dimensionless factor)
therefore:
10.72 A X .208 = 2.234 A

looking at the capture from the scope (1st photo below) it resembles a sine wave somewhat, so we can use 0.707 X 134V in the average power calc:
.707 X 134V X 2.234A = 211.6 Watts.
Wp = 211.6 W

Now,

the alternator was putting out 13VDC
the analog amp meter (2nd & 3rd photo below) read 16 A
13V X 16A = 208 Watts
Wi = 208 W

and Wp agrees pretty good with Wi.  Compared 211.6 W to 208 W.

Peace,

Greg

[happyvalley808]

@gmeast,

Thanks for doing the math...

So a smaller inverter wouldn't work ?...... the inverter has to be 400w or more ?

Thanks for your time..

Mahalo Nui Loa,

HV

[Chris31]

On multiple discharge:
If you want to discharge the capacitor 3 times, you will have to be very quick to charge it up.
I don't think it is practical.
My proposal is to charge the 3 capacitors prior to reaching TDC and firing them at desired intervals.
This puts heavy demands on the circuit design.

Hi

I was also thinking something along that line, well I though using 3 set of CDIs might do it. Each capacitor is charged in turn such that the load on the inverter is spread throughout each revolution. Then the 3 capacitors are discharge sequentially within let say that 10 deg.

I dont know if its beneficial or not, I wont bother with it at the moment.

[insane4evr]

Hi insane4evr,

I have taken the measurement with an analog amp meter and here are the results with final calcs in watts:
.....
and Wp agrees pretty good with Wi.  Compared 211.6 W to 208 W.

Peace,

Greg

Man you really know your stuff. And a mathematician even.

Thank you very much.