URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[gotoluc]

Guys, you may want to check out this metal and get a "Material Safety Data Sheet":  "Beryllium-Copper"
I worked for North American Avation back in the 60's.  The fine particles were getting into the air and people like tool & cutter grinders were dying over this stuff.  They had to wear masks and wash the tools before they could grind any cuts on them. This stuff created puss pockets in their lungs.

Hi lefferdink,

thank you for your post and concern. I emailed Robin your post and here is his reply.

Luc

My email to Robin:
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:19:50 -0800
From: gotoluc@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Firestorm plugs
To: robin david

Hi Robin,

I don't know if you are following the topic at the OU Forum but if not the below was posted by user lefferdink:

Can you research this for your sake of health.

Luc

lefferdink's post:
Guys, you may want to check out this metal and get a "Material Safety Data Sheet":  "Beryllium-Copper"
I worked for North American Avation back in the 60's.  The fine particles were getting into the air and people like tool & cutter grinders were dying over this stuff.  They had to wear masks and wash the tools before they could grind any cuts on them. This stuff created puss pockets in their lungs.


Robin's reply:
Luc, Yes I am aware of the hazards of beryllium copper and wear my welding mask when welding or machining it . I tend to be like the canary in the mine so I am careful around a lot of what I work on. Thanks for the heads up, Robin David

[gmeast]

Hi all,

...just an update.  Made and installed water delivery manifold (bent tube with some 1/16th holes).  Made a couple of freeway runs.  Enlarged the carb bleed air cooling hole to 1/2" dia. ... carb got a little warm - dodn't want to boil the gas in the float bowl and torch everything.  Using the I.V. water drip right now 'cause I'm waiting for some more peristaltic tubes for the pump ... they wear out awfully fast ... inferior tube material I think.  Getting close to resuming tests.  As soon as peristaltic pump is in, then baseline pictures of #2 plug (easiest to get to), mileage, fuel and away we go.

I may still wrap some of that copper scrub stuff around everything though ... don' know.

Peace,

Greg

water supply manifold with 1/16" dia. holes
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/VW/water_tube.jpg

manifold installed (bright sunshine!)
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/VW/tube_install.jpg

[zzzz]

Hi zzzz,

I initially had similar problems when my current limiter R1 was too small so the CDI  C1 Cap would not fill all the way.  I am using a 1uF cap and a 1000 ohm R1 and my oscillator supplies 350 VDC at 3000 RPM (four banger).  Your combination should work too.  Is there some way to make sure your power supply is working under load.  It would be good to use an oscilloscope to look at the output of oscillator / inverter to make sure it does not fall too much as engine speed goes up.

Also, I had no luck adding water as water droplets / fog.  But I had good results with steam I generate from dripping allot of water on the exhaust in the heater box.

The water circuit is not in yet but the following picture shows the inlet coming from the heater box, air inlet and filter is in the cab on the floor behind the driver, and the carburetor is kept from boiling by fan air routed from the right side (restrictor in end of duct hose 7/16" dia).

warm air and steam into carburetor - carburetor bowl cooled by fan bleed air
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/VW/new_inlet.jpg

Be careful of high voltage.  And make sure your wires are not arcing, etc.

Peace,

Greg

Thanks Greg,
So should i change to 1uf 1000 ohm?
from the pic... You feed hot air from heater box... that very convert from normal theory... but i agree with you...
Normally we need coolest aur intake for more density more power...
but i ever test with my bug by feed hot air in quite the same way that you do, result quite impress, 10-20% less fuel can normally get....BUT...always have treade of....power drop alot ... drivablity not satify...
so i take it off and change from gasoline to LPG. until now.

in your case power drop or not, and did you got missfire both with steam + no plasma and steam + plasma....

and can you feel differences between plasma on and off when running  ...

I will try more...please suggest which point i should improve...

thanks again
zzzz

[gmeast]

Hi all,

There has been some concern about how the beryllium-copper plugs are wearing.  Many saw the data table I posted showing seven distinct measurement points for each plug.  After about 250 miles of 'running around town' miles I pulled my #2 plug and checked it against the data table.  I detected no more than about .0015" variation from the recorded data ... well within measurement error ... enough to say "0" wear.

Of more concern to me was the uniformity of the spark's excursion across the anode / electrode surfaces.  So I enriched the idle mixture to get some carbon on the plug so I could "take a picture" of the spark's excursion.

All I can say is that the wear from the spark must certainly be spread out evenly.  The picture I've included looks just like an inverted shadow cast from a bright light.

Below is the pic:

Peace,

Greg

Photo showing sparking pattern keeping carbon burned off - clean
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/VW/uniform_spark.jpg

[gotoluc]

Thanks for taking the time to give us an update Greg

Keep up the great work

Luc