URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[gotoluc]

@Greg.  Hi Greg. Do you know what kind of alloy are use for the electrodes on the firestorm spark plug replication? For now , that plugs  seem to be very good.
I have seen the pictures on the bug's crankcase, you did a very nice job.
Jean-Luc

Bonjour Jean-Luc

Robin David has recently switched to a new alloy for durability. The plugs are now made of an Alloy called Beryllium Copper.  Info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryllium_copper

Luc

[ECK H20]

@ Luc. Bonjour Luc. Many thanks for the link, it's very interesting and I hope beryllium-copper is the best alloy to use with plasma arc ignition
Regards
Jean-Luc

[gmeast]

hi Greg
   I just done my test with Vexus V.6
   Hi-Grade Audio C 2.7uf.  R 440  ohm V 295 dc with 335 uf storage cap

   I put wire at the distributer cap, and take plug out for easy to look, not have any effect...
circuit didn't draw any current after cap full. But after i move dc wire to the plug,  plasma show as it should. Then I put all 4 wire to each plug, and test function, circuit draw current but very less 0.1-0.3 amp 13.2 v...
  So it still not so sure plasmar work or not, i separate another plug(5th) put #2 spark wire on it, ran 3 cylinder at idal speed, for short time. I saw plasma work on this plag but it seem not constant, 5-10 cycle plasma work fine then gone 1-2 cycle  can see only normal spark and it looping all the testing time, I check V and current draw it still constant at -290 to -293 and 0.1-0.3 amp. 
  I can't solve this, but it seem better than all normal spark, So i decide to run on real life,+ water add 1 lite/40 km.
  after ran for work 5 rounds , 400 km. total, for sure easier cold start. Power  and fuel consumption slightly better, but only 5% i use 80 km every day, normal i pay average 100, after plasma i pay 94-96 for 5 day test
  If i add water, engine ran not so smooth, feel like missfire at ideal, and hi load low speed, then on day 3 i stop water add, bug ran very good... fuel consumption still 95 on the next day. this seem water not have any effect with fuel consumption. maybe quantity still not match.
   for now day 6, off/on plasma did not effect with power and fuel consumption, and engine start to missfire again...maybe plug already gone...

  So this is my test result...any comment...please..........

Hi zzzz,

I initially had similar problems when my current limiter R1 was too small so the CDI  C1 Cap would not fill all the way.  I am using a 1uF cap and a 1000 ohm R1 and my oscillator supplies 350 VDC at 3000 RPM (four banger).  Your combination should work too.  Is there some way to make sure your power supply is working under load.  It would be good to use an oscilloscope to look at the output of oscillator / inverter to make sure it does not fall too much as engine speed goes up.

Also, I had no luck adding water as water droplets / fog.  But I had good results with steam I generate from dripping allot of water on the exhaust in the heater box.

The water circuit is not in yet but the following picture shows the inlet coming from the heater box, air inlet and filter is in the cab on the floor behind the driver, and the carburetor is kept from boiling by fan air routed from the right side (restrictor in end of duct hose 7/16" dia).

warm air and steam into carburetor - carburetor bowl cooled by fan bleed air
http://home.pacbell.net/gmeast/VW/new_inlet.jpg

Be careful of high voltage.  And make sure your wires are not arcing, etc.

Peace,

Greg

[happyvalley808]

@All,

Please send me your e-mail address if you are interested and i will send a working vapor carb. schematic ..

I tried to post here but the file type is not accepted..

Best Regards,

Jared

[lefferdink]

Guys, you may want to check out this metal and get a "Material Safety Data Sheet":  "Beryllium-Copper"
I worked for North American Avation back in the 60's.  The fine particles were getting into the air and people like tool & cutter grinders were dying over this stuff.  They had to wear masks and wash the tools before they could grind any cuts on them. This stuff created puss pockets in their lungs.