URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[tishatang]

@Callanan
I would really like to see you get your two-stroke motor to run.  The fact that you got one pop out of it is very encouraging.  I have three of these laying around my yard.  I have some suggestions.

You can retard the spark, but you will have to pull the flywheel and remove the key in the keyway   This is what locks the timing.  Now you can rotate the flywheel in the direction it wants to run to reduce the spark.  Rotate about 25 to 35 degrees and tighten back down securely.  Once you have found where you want it, maybe it is possible to drill a hole between the flywheel and the crankshaft and drive a pin (nail) in to secure it from slipping?

Don't forget to mix some soluble  oil with the water to oil the bearing and prevent rust.  Use distilled or deionized water to prevent mineral deposits from forming in the carb and crankcase.

It might be an interesting experiment to install an anti-foul spark plug adapter in the engine.  This is a small chamber that screws into the spark plug hole.  The spark plug then screws into it.  In a small engine like this, it will reduce the compression ratio making it easier to fire.  It might also reduce the explosion time between the plug and the top of the piston because the force has to travel further?  This would have the effect of retarding the timing slightly.  There is also the possibility of using this adapter to tap into it and feed the water directly below the plug?  The carb would then only have to supply air and you would not have to worry so much about water in the crankcase.  Just squirt a little regular oil in it occasionly like an airtool.  These adapters have a small orifice to reduce oil getting to the plug.  You will have to enlarge it for our use.  These are available for auto engines, I don't know if they make them for small engines like this?

Hope this helps,  Good luck
Tishatang
Chris

[tishatang]

@gotoluc

I found this PDF on the other thread.  I was thinking this modified CDI system with multiple firings combined with your HV design may help the odds of us achieving our goad of running on water?

http://www.molla.org/DIY-CDI/SC-DIY-CDI-article-hires.pdf

Tishatang
Chris

[perma]

Has anyone taken a look at these Firestorm plugs to see if they might make sense to use with this application? I noticed that they have no internal resistor, and seem to generate a beefy 'plasma ball' @ 12V DC. I can only imagine what they would do with the inverter in place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwXApkLhbc

[qiman]

Just a small note to see things clearly.

This has nothing to with back emf and this is not what you're using.

BACK EMF is ONLY happening when the loop is closed...Back emf is is Lenz's law...the opposing current to oppose your forward current when charging the coil with 12v or your cap.

AFTER, the input is disconnected, the field collapses and you get that "inductive spike"...that comes AFTER your forward current that has back emf opposing it.

Chronologically in sequence:

1. Charge coil and the forward charge has back emf opposing it...that IS why the forward current applied field charges so slowly.

2. Disconnect and field collapses...why does it collapse fast? There is no back emf to oppose it.

Your HV spike is a time compressed potential...you put in work and you get back potential...potential over time is watts or work and work compressed back into time is high voltage potential.

[k4zep]

Hey at least I'm out there trying to figure this out instead of sitting behind a keyboard criticizing people who are actually trying to get things going. If you'll read up a couple posts you'll see the man that came up with the circuit that I'm using had trouble getting it to work on an engine too at first. Are you an electronics wizard? If so did you learn it overnight? You know how long I've been learning about electronics? About a week now so unless you have something useful to say to me then please leave me out of yer posts.

Right on Bumfuzzled,

The post right below your last post is a VERY good one!!!!!  His recognition of the fast burn time of Hydrogen and timing requirements is MOST important!  That engine you have sounds great, if you can reset the points and the magneto coil to match, you should have it made at least from the firing end of it......the water delivery system via "carburetor".....I"m not so sure of as water doesn't vaporize like gasoline!!!!!

If too much, just reset the points to 25-35 degrees AFTER TDC and use an external coil/power supply as others are trying and use the points as a trigger.

Ben