URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[alan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JkQZIm1wN0

A simple method of 'measuring' explosive energy. Maybe it can be helpful with your experiments.

[whopper1967]

I am not near enough along to try it yet,but I wonder if a much lower compression ratio in the cylinder might not be better for this system?Really all the power would come from the explosion and not the compression ratio wouldnt it?I know that higher compression ratio engines are more efficient and powerful to a certain point with gasoline,up to about 10 to 1 on todays gas.But i think the difference would be compared to trying to kickstart a v8 motor as to the bike motor that cap70 has running.Anybody else?

[goldenequity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JkQZIm1wN0

A simple method of 'measuring' explosive energy. Maybe it can be helpful with your experiments.

Thanks Alan.  But pure HHO in a vacuum purged container implodes (you can research this out as it has been documented many times)
The fact that he got his device to portray an explosion, means that he had "some" amount of ambient air involved.... including vapor.
He simply measured the explosion of that amount of water.... and since we/he have no idea as to the ratios of air/vapor/HHO..... his
calculations unfortunately mean nothing.  Its cool that he got an explosion though..... but until you can control such variables... calculations like that mean absolutely nothing.

[bumfuzzled]

I'm not sure the waste spark will be a problem if you retard the timing to ATDC but one sure fire way to tell is if it starts backfiring.

[gotoluc]

First time I have posted here.
I have been following since this thread since it first started on this forum.
I have built a circuit based off of the picture diagram at the beginning. I'm currently not using my 400w Black and Decker inverter because I can't get more than about 2 or 3 sparks and something trips internally and it shuts itself off. This happens with everything from a 1 microfarad to 150 microfarad capacitor. I gave up on the inverter for now and went to something I know is sure to work. I'm using 110v AC from a wall socket going through 4 60w and 2 75w light bulbs in parallel to give me 390w AC. Wish I could attach a picture but my wife has the digital camera right now. I run this into an 8 amp full wave bridge rectifier. The negative from the bridge goes to ground on the MSD coil, spark plug(motor) ground, and one side of a 135 microfarad capacitor. The positive side of the bridge connects to the spark plug via 16 1N5407 diodes. The output of the coil is connected to the spark plug also. It looks very much like the picture diagram at the front of this post except  where the SPDT switch is I have fabricated a set of points that are operated by a cam lobe collar locked down by a set screw on the output shaft of a Briggs & Stratton 5HP Horizontal shaft engine. So far I've tried timing settings from 40 degrees before top dead center to 60 degrees after top dead center. I haven't been able to get it to run with only water. I can tell you this though- there is no way a normal ignition system would take the amount of water I've run through this engine. It seems to want to try to run on water at low rpm with the throttle valve completely closed.

I have run out of time for now and will be gone for 4 days. Will try again when I get back.

I'd like to mention that there is a big difference I think between the picture diagram and the circuit diagram at the beginning of this post from my point of view. The picture diagram is firing a capacitor THROUGH the coil and the circuit diagram is firing a capacitor ON TOP OF a coil discharge. I think this leaves more to be investigated.

I'd also like to mention that while using this setup the spark plug will fire without being grounded to the circuit. The engine is mounted to wood boards for insulation purposes. I accidentally forget to connect the ground from the circuit to the engine block and the plug still fired. As soon as I touched the motor I got shocked and then figured out I forgot the ground wire. Any explanations on this?

If someone is going to try this be very careful. I don't touch the engine while starting or running it. I turn it over with a 1/3 HP electric motor via a drive belt pulley from a water pump off an old chevy. If you take off the recoil starter and remove the ratchet clutch a water pump pulley will bolt right on with a  fine thread nut. Water pump pulleys are about 6" in diameter. I put a 2" pulley on the electric motor. It turns over great! When the engine starts firing, unplug the electric motor or it pulls down the engine. This way I can turn it over while watching the resistor light bulbs and get an indication of when the plug has cleared itself and starts firing again after being drowned out.

I originally tried turning it over with a 3/4" electric drill but for some reason it caused a full draw on the resistor light bulbs. I guess it was searching for a ground through the drill.

Happy testing everyone!!!!!
God loves you
MIke

Wow Mike, you are doing great work. Most impressive ...my hat off to you my friend. All this research, testing and development was done without a single post

This is a great example of real research. Build it and learn, then share to help others.

You need to restrict the air intake when using water as a fuel since the water contains oxygen itself. That is why you notice it works better with the throttle closed.

This weekend I am working on mounting a 3.5 hp lawnmower motor to a washing machine motor frame which I will use the electric motor to keep turning the motor as I do adjustments. See pictures attached

May this be an example to everyone of how much can be accomplished without a single post.

God bless your great work Mike.

Luc