URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[k4zep]

I am not ready yet for the complete setup but I was playing with different mod on some spark plug.

I removed on one the resistance and just fire up the spark plug (just from a small 12v 7a battery) and was getting very little spark.

I used another plug, I was not able to remove the resistance but with the new configuration I was getting a very good spark!! even with the resistance.
Its easy to try, I removed the neg electrode and put glued a 1/4-20 hex nuts on the top here the picture. I image with the inverter circuit you should get
a very BIG spark, better then a normal plug configuration!

Hi One,

Very good work.  You need to remove the resistor or NOT use a resistor plug so the current from the LV supply can flow quickly in the plasma/spark.  The resistor in plug will limit the current!

Ben

[k4zep]

Has anyone taken a look at these Firestorm plugs to see if they might make sense to use with this application? I noticed that they have no internal resistor, and seem to generate a beefy 'plasma ball' @ 12V DC. I can only imagine what they would do with the inverter in place.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwXApkLhbc

Where can you buy them?? 

Ben

[atlantex]

nowhere   

[goldenequity]

More thoughts on the "waste spark" as described previously.
If we're going to continue to work on the 4 stroke single cylinder engine, we are going to have to deal with it.

The magneto driven ignition system (as set up for gasoline) creates 2 sparks for every 4 strokes. (see previous post).

Normally, because the timing is set to occur BEFORE TDC,
the waste spark is then "buried" into the exhaust stroke..... and creates NOTHING in the inert gas environment.
and so it creates no problems.

Should we decide to change the timing and move that spark to occur PAST TDC,
we are pushing that 2nd "waste" spark to occur into the INTAKE stroke ( with valve "open" ).
The vapor being introduced into the cylinder at that point would then explode with an open valve..... and that is a problem.

Thinking further about timing normally set to occur BEFORE TDC,
It could very well be, that with hydrogen/plasma/water, and its incredibly FAST burn rate and Explosive Power....
it would be working AGAINST us.
Here's how:
As I said before, the inefficiency of the gas engine is due to exploding the fuel/air during the last part of the compression stroke, i.e BEFORE TDC.
The momentum of the engine overcomes this ill timed event though, and all is well (except for the energy LOST).
But what if the engine is now "fighting" to overcome a much greater force... i.e. a hydrogen/plasma/water explosion during compression?
The answer of course would be to simply move the spark forward into the power stroke and enjoy the fast burn rate and power of our new fuel.
Which brings us back to the "waste spark".
It's gotta go. 


The "waste" spark must be eliminated.  Any ideas out there?

[poynt99]

Just a small note to see things clearly.

This has nothing to with back emf and this is not what you're using.

BACK EMF is ONLY happening when the loop is closed...Back emf is is Lenz's law...the opposing current to oppose your forward current when charging the coil with 12v or your cap.

AFTER, the input is disconnected, the field collapses and you get that "inductive spike"...that comes AFTER your forward current that has back emf opposing it.

Chronologically in sequence:

1. Charge coil and the forward charge has back emf opposing it...that IS why the forward current applied field charges so slowly.

2. Disconnect and field collapses...why does it collapse fast? There is no back emf to oppose it.

Your HV spike is a time compressed potential...you put in work and you get back potential...potential over time is watts or work and work compressed back into time is high voltage potential.

qiman, of course you are 100% correct. thank you for clearing that up.

we get lazy sometimes and use the wrong terms

also thanks for the simple diagram, i think you have captured the essence of what's really going on here.

have you tried this with a smaller cap yet, say 3u3?