URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[callanan]

Ossie, I was looking over your latest schematic, the one with the inverter. The top half looks to be the same in function to a standard ignition, let's say for a single cylinder engine with a battery ignition system (like an old garden tractor). The bottom half has the inverter and the few diodes, caps and a coil that might be what's inside s1's 'can' we saw in the video's. What do you think?

RD

Hi retrod,

Correct. The top half of the circuit is simply simulating the ignition system of an ICE including the ignition coil. The bottom half is all that needs to be applied to an ICE if this circuit is to work on an ICE. But please note that I am note claiming that it will. I believe the next step for some of us is to prove IF it will work on and ICE. We have just been engineering the plasma discharge first.

Regards,

Ossie

[xbox hacker]

UPDATE 2:

OK...i got it to work!!   

In my effort to make it as if the plug was in the block, i put a a wire from the block to the the body of the plug (just as if it was in the block), that was sitting on the table. With the wire connected it does nothing....but with out it...STAND BACK!!!! lol GREAT plasma flame and sounds. But that does not help the problem that the plug still needs to be in the block.

I used the voltage doubler with a 330uf 400v cap through diodes to the top of the plug. I still had the ammeter hooked up, the plasma hit every time the engine revolved and the meter NEVER MOVED!!!!! It would seem to be VERY little or no draw!!

I feel much better now...BUT my 73" Mitsu TV died today 

[geovel56]

Hi Group,

Got my parts today.  I am GLAD Luc got moderator privileges to delete 90% of the garbage on this thread, as most threads tend to accumulate.

Koen and others... the purpose of this thread was to establish, develop and improve on A CIRCUIT to create a plasma arc.  All too often (as is the case here, and in most threads) people come in, read the first page and the last page without reading anything else in between, and then take up huge amounts of time (from others) to answer the very questions you are asking, but HAD YOU READ THE THREAD IN THE FIRST PLACE, the answers were already there.

As far as applying it to an ICE... we ALL already KNOW the plasma arc is the critical step and the rest has already been done by two people now (S1R and JCBX)!  Luc, myself, Ossie and a few others have been here from the start of this thread and working toward the goal established by this thread... AGAIN, to come up with a circuit that draws as little energy as possible, and still generate a powerful plasma arc.  Ossie, you have been a huge contributor, and I'd like to personally thank you for all your input.  Luc, you started this thread, and your vision must be commended as well, especially by taking the ORIGINAL position of FOCUSING ON THE CIRCUIT.

Dr. "S" took the words from my mouth with his EXACT comment about "crapsters" posting in here 100% off topic, introducing extraneous topics, and breaking the focus of this thread!  If anyone wants to contribute, please do so, ONLY ON TOPIC, but PLEASE stop posting things that are not DIRECTLY RELATED to our focus!  Personally, I'd rather see this thread have zero postings for days on end (which hopefully means people are actually experimenting) than to have to weed through post after post of Off Topic DRIVEL!   If you want to talk to someone, send them a personal message and keep it off the forum.  THIS IS NOT A CHATROOM!

If someone wishes to be part of the team effort here, then at least do some minimal research (even if its only to ACTUALLY read this ENTIRE thread) where much of the questions many are asking has already been answered.  DO A LITTLE WORK YOURSELF, EVEN IF ITS ONLY TO READ!  I am trying to avoid using this term, but I can't find one that doesn't sum it up completely... STOP BEING SO  LAZY!

If you don't have anything to add to the thread and the focus of this thread, kindly monitor it and read along, and learn, but PLEASE STOP POSTING OFF TOPIC. 

Nuff said! 

BACK ON TOPIC - My group is using the circuit posted by Ossie with the 10 - 1N4007 diodes and the 16 - 1N5404's, but with a 12VDC to 120VAC inverter.  We will then use the latest Ossie circuit with the car relay in it.  From there, my team will apply it to an ICE (1974 Chevy Blazer with 350 engine and 4 barrel carb, just like S1R's El Camino). 

WHEN all this works, hopefully we can devise a simple circuit to eliminate the inverter, as it seems to be too bulky (but a great tool for initial experimentation).  With improved circuit designs to reduce energy input, a big inverter is probably overkill, since right now, Ossie's last circuit is only drawing 60 watts. 

Our thought is to use a toroidal coil to supply the main power, and use a coil (plus other components)for each cylinder's plasma arc.  This should eliminate the need for an inverter, reduce overall size of the circuitry to make it easier to fit under the hood, and attempt to make it a "plug and play" module that can be used on ANY engine.

I will keep everyone informed of my group's progress, video record things as we go along and post them!  FOCUS is the key here to reduce input energy and have a high energy plasma output!

Regards,
Geo

[resonanceman]

UPDATE 2:

OK...i got it to work!!   

In my effort to make it as if the plug was in the block, i put a a wire from the block to the the body of the plug (just as if it was in the block), that was sitting on the table. With the wire connected it does nothing....but with out it...STAND BACK!!!! lol GREAT plasma flame and sounds. But that does not help the problem that the plug still needs to be in the block.

I used the voltage doubler with a 330uf 400v cap through diodes to the top of the plug. I still had the ammeter hooked up, the plasma hit every time the engine revolved and the meter NEVER MOVED!!!!! It would seem to be VERY little or no draw!!

I feel much better now...BUT my 73" Mitsu TV died today 

Congradulations  on  getting    your engine  turning over

It sounds  very promising

It is  one thing to  get it  done ........  But  it is  even better  if it is   efficient  too .



gary

[buzneg]

I got info from a big company who does this for Plus Detonation to make oxy-hydrogen. he said they use plused plasma, and that I won't find out what they use to catalyse it. I don't know if they made to gas to send it to the jet engine, or inside the engine. I said KOH, he didn't confirm or deny it. But KOH would probably also split up in the plasma, and be used as a fuel too. I was wondering if charging the water in a Hydrogen generator would help, it would add energy to it. H2 and O2 mixed in the water..