URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[xbox hacker]

@ninjadaniel : I highly recommend the voltage doubler!  The voltage doubler will take the place of the bridge.

@whopper1967 : On a magneto you can not change the polarity of the spark, so you need to make a pickup coil and use it to trigger a automotive coil added on to a mower motor. But in a car, just swap the plus for the minus on the coil, that will change the polarity.

[gotoluc]

I'm not sure what you've been reading here - but your conclusions are nothing like what i've learned here ...

As far as i'm concerned, there is no secret power in the spark.  Most people here seem to be using the brute force approach - maxium volts, maximum amps - large power input, for hopefully enough power output to drive a piston down a cylinder ...

The power i'm interested in is in the water.  And it would appear to be in the molecular bonds holding water together in a liquid state.  By atomising the water with a spark - the water suddenly has less molecular bond energy - and because energy is neither created nor destroyed - the energy that was previously holding the molecules together is transformed into violent kinetic energy.  And apparantly the temperature drops too - which I don't understand yet.  Heat is kinetic energy - but obviously there are different forms of kinetic energy.  For example - it's possible to freeze something (reducing heat energy) and accelerate it (increasing kinetic energy) at the same time - so different effects are obviously at work here. 

The subject of electrostatic cooling seems to be linked here.  If objects can be suddenly cooled with the application of high voltage with minimal current - it would appear that massive overunity heat engines should be possible.  I'm thinking this water arc effect is ultimately a heat engine.  But I could be barking mad.

I'm just looking for the best strategy to build a device to test these wild theories ...

Hi greendoor, I very much agree with you! ... too much time spent on the study of the spark and not enough on the role the water plays here.

I think we may find that the spark would be very different if it was in a non humid environment,  maybe much like lightning in a dry summer night.

I agree with you that the water seems to be a very important part and should have just as much attention as the spark.

After all I did call this effect Water Power and not spark power!

Luc

[k4zep]

Hi Gang,

Boy we have a fiesty, honest and deep thinking group here.  In spite of BS and doubts, I am continuing working on my modified motor to test all this out.  Motor is finished, now have to mount, flywheel, electronics, timing, plumbing for water.....Lot of work even trying to get a motor to run and I'm trying to do it in a 6th floor condo and my closet shop!...

I have lots of pictures of head construction, secondary injection port, etc.  But one pic. attached here is good enough for now.

Picture below is motor with ruler and oh yes, a nail ready to eat............

Ben

[bumfuzzled]

Hi bumfuzzled,

Aren't you making an assumption that it "puts out" this voltage and amperage? If it were so, wouldn't it be putting out 90 kilowatts? This is enough power for 9 or 10 houses if it was continuous. I think you will find that it uses a pulsed current of 2 amps for a 12 volt system and will put out 45,000 volts but at very little current. At 100% efficiency it will only put out 533uAmps (micoamps) at 45,000 volts. A microamp is one millionth of an amp...

Regards,

Ossie

It doesn't say it DRAWS 2 amps, it says it PRODUCES a 2 amp spark at 45,000v in the catalog. I'm not saying it will and I don't have the $166.30 to buy it and try it but MSD has been one of the top ignition companies in racing for years, I don't see them putting out BS for no reason. i understand the power output calculation but this is for a few microseconds not continuous.

[tinu]

@ all,
http://www.kettering.edu/~drussell/Demos/doppler/mach1.html
?Not only were the water vapor, density and temperature just right??
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