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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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poynt99

Quote from: qiman on July 10, 2008, 06:38:20 AM
Greendoor,

The input of the diode is touching the low voltage +. The output of the diode is touching the HV+. Anytime the voltage on the output side of a diode is HIGHER than the input, the DIODE REMAINS CLOSED.

When is there less voltage potential on the diode's output than the input side? When does the voltage drop below the input side? When the cap is discharged, think about how how much is left and what that diode is.

When does the other side of the diode drop BELOW the input side of the diode in order to open that diode?

Until then....the diode remains closed.



qiman, let me see if i know what you're getting at:

it's simple, the high current from the diode side does not come into play until the reverse inductive spike from the coil secondary occurs, which is NEGATIVE relative to the diode output. this then will allow the diode to forward bias and fully discharge the cap.

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whopper1967

@xbox hacker
Which would be why capacitor70 circuit looks as it does,so if I was to use your circuit with an automotive coil,then the grounding issue will not be a problem,correct?

xbox hacker

Quote from: whopper1967 on July 10, 2008, 02:00:19 PM
@xbox hacker
Which would be why capacitor70 circuit looks as it does,so if I was to use your circuit with an automotive coil,then the grounding issue will not be a problem,correct?

Do you want to start with a mower or a car?
With a mower you need to lose the magneto(if you have -VE), and replace it with a pickup like cap70, then use a automotive ignition coil with + to + and pulse the - from the pick up...you should get +VE  :D

Car...just make sure the coil has the + on the + and you should be good to go.

I will be putting the pickup setup on my motor this weekend (or sooner  ;)) But ofcourse that will change the timeing, so that might take a bit to get it right.

Yes...then no problems... ;D

hydrocontrol

Quote from: xbox hacker on July 10, 2008, 02:20:46 PM
Do you want to start with a mower or a car?
With a mower you need to lose the magneto(if you have -VE), and replace it with a pickup like cap70, then use a automotive ignition coil with + to + and pulse the - from the pick up...you should get +VE  :D

Car...just make sure the coil has the + on the + and you should be good to go.

I will be putting the pickup setup on my motor this weekend (or sooner  ;)) But ofcourse that will change the timeing, so that might take a bit to get it right.

Yes...then no problems... ;D

Car.. ??? Depends on what type of car engine. Newer computerized car.. Very doubtful. Older car with points, condenser and adjustable timing. Possible... Which is more valuable to you that could be ruined experimenting.  ???  Mower/generator engine.. Couple hundred $$.. Car.. couple of thousand $$ and lack of transportation... I do like Ben's approach. Small hobby engine. Very simple and elegant. If it fails he can still drive and he can still mow the lawn  ;) Of course he lives in a condo so I suspect lawn mowing is taken care of by someone else.  ;D

hydrocontrol

Quote from: k4zep on July 10, 2008, 10:42:20 AM
Hi Gang,

Boy we have a fiesty, honest and deep thinking group here.  In spite of BS and doubts, I am continuing working on my modified motor to test all this out.  Motor is finished, now have to mount, flywheel, electronics, timing, plumbing for water.....Lot of work even trying to get a motor to run and I'm trying to do it in a 6th floor condo and my closet shop!...

I have lots of pictures of head construction, secondary injection port, etc.  But one pic. attached here is good enough for now.
Ben

Geezz  Ben. I think you could just run that size engine with that size plug on the humidity of your breath.  ;D  Could you not find a bigger plug.  ::)  If this works that means the plug I will have to get my Briggs engine to run on will be the size of a 20oz coke bottle  :D