URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[aar]

AbbaRue said....
"I would place a small spark gap in series with the HV terminal just after it leaves the coil, which won't let LV enter the coil."

Good point & it seems that S1r probably had this too even if he did not realize it as it there is likely to have been this gap between the rotor arm & the plug terminals in the distributor.

plasmastudent7 said...
"So a PWM circuit could be adapted to produce :
a 1 ms pulse,
then 1 ms later,
a 2 ms pulse,
then 1 ms later,
a 4 ms pulse."

I have been in favor of multiple pulses myself. Your suggestion would be easy to implement using a cheap standard logic counter/divider chip & logic gates on the output to pick off what pulses you want.

Thanks to all those who have contributed positively to this thread.

[resonanceman]

Hi Gary,

The pumping you are talking about reminds me of the increasing amplitude pulse train that Meyers had in his patent/s.

Alternatively, if you vary the pulse length, you vary the energy in it. So a short 120 V DC pulse will have less energy that a pulse twice as long but same voltage.

So a PWM circuit could be adapted to produce :
a 1 ms pulse,
then 1 ms later,
a 2 ms pulse,
then 1 ms later,
a 4 ms pulse.

All at the same DC voltage.

This just a different way of how Meyer used a bunch of pulses of the same length, but each pulse was higher that the previous one in the pulse train ( 4 pulses I think, and these pulse trains were repeated over and over ).

With electricity, to work out the enegry in a pulse, you integrate the shape and width of the pulse to determine the energy contained in the pulse. Meyer had same pulse width, but varied the amplitude of the pulses in the pulse train, gradually increasing each successive pulse's amplitude over the length of each pulse train.

But I'm suggesting using the same pulse height ( as were using a constant DC voltage )  but make the width gradually longer over the pulse train. With a greater length pulse, we will have greater energy delivered to the spark plug with greatest energy in the last pulse.

So in effect, we should in theory , have a PWM based Meyer pulse train.

Cheers & beers,

Steve

Steve

I  thought  about  using  a PMW  for quite a while .
The  fact that the  speed, witdth and  voltage can all be varied   is a big plus.

One  big drawback  for PMWs  is  they  arn't  somethning that  you can  already get at any Walmart  or parts  store .




One thing  I really like about  my design  is  how  simple  it is  getting .
So  far  the  only  stuff  going into the control  box   are  a  throttle   cable  ( connected to the variable  caps ) the  power  for the inverter  and   a wire the  choke



I do think  a PMW based   unit  has as much  chance  of working .
The main  reason  I   chose the  stuff I am  using is because it is  easy for me to "  see "

My thinking process is  mostly visual .
In effect I  run mental   simulations .

Simulate  then simplify

Simulate then simplify

Simulate then simplify .

I  have  already  built  many dozens of  variations  in my mind  .   
I    try to watch all the  details   including   things like how  it can be built .

Once  I can  no longer  find  flaws in   it ........and it  is as simple  as I can  make it ........THEN I start to build .

My    experience  is  mostly with mechanical  systems .
Electronics  is not my thing.
I can  visulize  a transistor  working ..........but   visualizing  a whole complex circuit  working  is beyond me at this point . 


gary

[resonanceman]

Hi Troyd1
I suggested that a few posts back,but got no responce,spose.they didn't think much of that,also to fit the plug on the horizontal,they are a lot of those engines about,then put a cup over the end of the plug,leaving a hole in the top of the cup to put the water in.
happy hunting
peter

In  short the problem  with running  a conventional  engine upside down  is OIL .
Where would  the oil go in an upside down engine ?
The  fixes  for the problems  created by turring   it  upside down   are possible  to fix ...........but it  would probably be easier  to  start  from  scratch 

If you  want to go   half way .........an  avation  engine  or old   flat  VW  engine  might have some possibilities

gary

[retrod]

New video today of plasma & marble interaction. I used a different spark plug with a narrower gap so I could observe the pulse force a little closer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv_y3MH9-jc

RD

[Dmoney]

This is several videos showing waters power exploding.  Blows several things apart in earlier videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiRqrQC7DJ8&feature=related

Darren