URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[destino1320]

Greetings all
This is my first post here, and a have a few questions.

Here is a video of my set up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqSq3jVlMHA

so far we have built a pair of firestorm spark plugs and we have put together a combination of the Tero water explosion circuit and the JCBX circuit.
We cant get the engine to run however, so i am curious about a few things, especially from capacitor70 or s1r9a9m9
- what is the best air to water mixture
-what is the optimal way to bring the water into the engine
-what is the optimal timing of the engine
-what is the optimal voltage coming from the inverter, and end result through the diodes ( as diodes to consume some voltage, there is a voltage drop when using certain diodes)
- is there a good way to charge the water before bringing it in to the motor, with magnets, or ionization or joe cell etc

any more help or comments would be great

thanks for all the good work everyone!

[kewlhead]

I must ask if anyone here is aquainted with an ERG. The description wiki gives states that is equal to less than 1 joule but has so many more eV .....    does anyone know if wiki has made a mistake in the description of an ERG?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erg

ooops  sorry bout that .... i see now the diffrence of 7 magnitudes     

[gotoluc]

Greetings all
This is my first post here, and a have a few questions.

Here is a video of my set up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqSq3jVlMHA

so far we have built a pair of firestorm spark plugs and we have put together a combination of the Tero water explosion circuit and the JCBX circuit.
We cant get the engine to run however, so i am curious about a few things, especially from capacitor70 or s1r9a9m9
- what is the best air to water mixture
-what is the optimal way to bring the water into the engine
-what is the optimal timing of the engine
-what is the optimal voltage coming from the inverter, and end result through the diodes ( as diodes to consume some voltage, there is a voltage drop when using certain diodes)
- is there a good way to charge the water before bringing it in to the motor, with magnets, or ionization or joe cell etc

any more help or comments would be great

thanks for all the good work everyone!

Wow destino, you guys are serious!!!... no one here that I know of have been able to make an engine work on water alone. So for myself there is nothing I can tell you do this and it will work.

However... I see you made some Krupa style plugs. From my simple experiments with the design I have found you need a high performance coil and mostly a custom made coil driver circuit to get the plugs to spread  the plasma over the larger surface of the plugs ball. I think that is the idea behind the Krupa plug design over a standard design. I think when we can get the plasma to cover all the surface area of the ball at ignition would possibly be one of the winning combination. I'm no expert but that is what I think and understand at this time. Have a look at a test video I did. Please keep in mind I am doing this with a standard coil alone, so no capacitor discharge and diodes used. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrrPu7AI50w

User name: UncleFester is more of an expert than me since he claims to be working at R&D for Mr. Krupa. So you can post here if you wish and ask him. However, keep in mind they have investors and maybe cannot share all the information. Which brings us back to why we are doing this!... right!!!

I also can offer you what I am working on at this time. I think our plasma spark will work well in a combustion engine if we combine some fuel with the water since a combustion engine works with an expansion event and what we have found is our spark and water event stays cold, so how could we expect the water to expand if it stays cold!... right!!!  So I proposed a GEET plasma engine combination to which is now built!... It uses the GEET bubbler concept only so no reactor chamber. The idea is to use the exhaust energy (heat and air pressure) to prepare the water and fuel mix by emulsifying the two in a vigorous mixture by the bubbling action, heat and shock waves of the exhaust (something like this example video): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8902559328011576310  but I have some Stainless pot scrubbers at the top of the jar to which when the bubbles hit they will burst and create a large surface area (surface tension) to help create a water gas vapor to which our plasma spark will be able to combust the fuel to which will flash the water vapor to steam to which will give great pressure to make a combustion engine work. All this with minimal power (fuel) input. My hopes also are that the plasma spark will create the effect that the GEET reactor does but all in the combustion chamber. Also note that my system is a closed loop between the exhaust and intake as I am quite sure this is also possible as Frederic Gauthier demonstrates (in French sorry) video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uboKv7lbAbY  I did contact Frederic last year after seeing his video and he has confirmed that he did close the intake and exhaust to create a loop and the engine worked just as well. This is what he is doing with the cloth to show no output or intake. I hope to have a demo some time this week.  Here is a video of the proposal I did over a week ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAyW21_L0is  At this time the bubbler assembly is completed, so now I'm working on the timing system and  the waste spark removal circuit.

You may also want to look at this topic as it relates to what I am doing above: http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5450.msg123278.html

I hope this can help you or anyone else reading this.

Luc

[kewlhead]

Hi Gotoluc,

Alltho the GEET system is an alltogether diffrent system,its neat that you are apply'n it to your research and I wuld like to offer some suggestions for your future research around the whole reality of the system if you dont mind...   just some thoughts and perspectives for your pleasure.
The glass jar wuld be inside a metal container with an 1/8" gap between them,sealed at top and bottom.The metal container wuld have fittings from the glass sealed jar as you have assymbled thru the top of it and seald as well with an additional fitting at top to push the heated exhaust into and around the outside of the glass jar and also a fitting on the side near the bottom to exit and exhaust the combustion gasses into as standard small engine muffler.
The copper piping you have assymbled for exhaust inlet I think wuld be a neat way to pull some extra nitrogen into the system from the air ... it wuld be assymbled as you have only where the exhaust is added atop of the lid into the copper piping an air filter/ionizer and an adjustable ball valve wuld be in place and the exhaust  wuld be routed into the extra fitting atop of the metal container to flow around the outside of the glass jar and exit out of the metal container with a provided fitting near the bottom side of the metal container.... hmm well those were some thoughts about the system and you may like to try it that way or not but I do appreciate the work you are doing and most sencerily Thank You for sharing.
Im currious to research subjecting all of the exhausted combustion byproducts further to combustion temperatures and the changes that those gasses may encounter....  may be good or bad....  interesting I havent seen any documentation on subjecting exhaust gasses to combustion chamber temperatures yet 

                                                                                                                                             
Im looking very forward to attempting a replication of the work you have shared.
All this is great stuff and Im glad everyone is still plug'n away and havent given up....  just wanted to say Thank You.

                                                                                                                                                                                     Thank You !

[gotoluc]

Hi Gotoluc,

Alltho the GEET system is an alltogether diffrent system,its neat that you are apply'n it to your research and I wuld like to offer some suggestions for your future research around the whole reality of the system if you dont mind...   just some thoughts and perspectives for your pleasure.
The glass jar wuld be inside a metal container with an 1/8" gap between them,sealed at top and bottom.The metal container wuld have fittings from the glass sealed jar as you have assymbled thru the top of it and seald as well with an additional fitting at top to push the heated exhaust into and around the outside of the glass jar and also a fitting on the side near the bottom to exit and exhaust the combustion gasses into as standard small engine muffler.
The copper piping you have assymbled for exhaust inlet I think wuld be a neat way to pull some extra nitrogen into the system from the air ... it wuld be assymbled as you have only where the exhaust is added atop of the lid into the copper piping an air filter/ionizer and an adjustable ball valve wuld be in place and the exhaust  wuld be routed into the extra fitting atop of the metal container to flow around the outside of the glass jar and exit out of the metal container with a provided fitting near the bottom side of the metal container.... hmm well those were some thoughts about the system and you may like to try it that way or not but I do appreciate the work you are doing and most sencerily Thank You for sharing.
Im currious to research subjecting all of the exhausted combustion byproducts further to combustion temperatures and the changes that those gasses may encounter....  may be good or bad....  interesting I havent seen any documentation on subjecting exhaust gasses to combustion chamber temperatures yet 

                                                                                                                                             
Im looking very forward to attempting a replication of the work you have shared.
All this is great stuff and Im glad everyone is still plug'n away and havent given up....  just wanted to say Thank You.

                                                                                                                                                                                     Thank You !

Hi kewlhead,

thank you for your suggestions and words of appreciation towards the work done.

I'm still working out things on the ignition system and hope to have a test as soon as it works. We will have to wait for the first test to be done before considering changes.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Luc