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URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

Started by gotoluc, June 26, 2008, 06:01:38 PM

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bwb

Quote from: gmeast on October 05, 2008, 08:52:08 PM
Hi HV,

This is to everyone:
It is unreliable to use most of the digital current measuring devices you buy.  They don't even measure modified sine wave inverter current reliably because of the square wave.  On top of that,  all of these systems are transferring power as "pulses" and these digital devices can't compute wattage correctly.  They like "smooth" DC and sine wave AC.  The most reliable way to measure power in a pulsing circuit is to use a shunt and a scope and compute the power across the shunt.

Greg
I have to say one thing.I plan on building your circuit.It seems to be the way to go.But not being a electronics expert I'm starting out playing with the simple nexus circuit.You know! Put transformer here,put diodes here. I hope you don't mind it when I start being a pain in your back asking this and that :D But i will do a search for the answers first.Maybe you can make a idiot proof layout of your circuit? It looks to me that it could be hook up to a standard electronic ignition system with no problems at all.

gotoluc

Quote from: bwb on October 05, 2008, 08:44:39 PM
Thanks for the response. I have followed your post and to me you are an expert. :)
  The case is not grounded to anything on the outside of it.Could it be that the inverter circuit itself is causing the connection by the way it produces the ac current?Since it is a modify sine wave form and not a pure wave form? Should I Just open it up and undo any internal grounds and hope for the best?BOOM ;D :o Any ideals welcomed.I do remember that the original plasma arc circuit that got this all started had to have a independent power supply.So I'm thinking maybe the type of inverter and the way it produces the ac may have something to do with it?Any experts on inverters out there? :P ;)Better yet has anyone else got the nexus to work on a Modify sine wave inverter with a positive output from your coil using only one battery?

Hi bwb,

I'm quite sure that it has nothing to do with the modified sine wave as it works when you isolate it using another battery so that would show you it is an isolation problem.

If anyone here has a suggestion please go for it as I have no good remedy.

Luc

gmeast

Quote from: bwb on October 05, 2008, 09:18:51 PM
I have to say one thing.I plan on building your circuit.It seems to be the way to go.But not being a electronics expert I'm starting out playing with the simple nexus circuit.You know! Put transformer here,put diodes here. I hope you don't mind it when I start being a pain in your back asking this and that :D But i will do a search for the answers first.Maybe you can make a idiot proof layout of your circuit? It looks to me that it could be hook up to a standard electronic ignition system with no problems at all.

Hi bwb,

No pain.  I've never built the Nexus or Alexa circuit but there is a whopping big difference between the one I've experimented with and the Nexus style.  The  one I made is based on the very first, original 'water spark plug' circuit where the Coil is pulsed with HV and not regular battery voltage.  (see the very first post in this thread - page 1). The original circuit is basically a CDI (capacitive discharge ignition) with a Diode feedback scheme.  The Nexus style is a regular voltage ignition system with an HV system 'piggy backed' onto it and with a 'similar' Diode feedback scheme.

Thanks for your interest.  Peace,

Greg

bwb

Quote from: gotoluc on October 05, 2008, 09:22:44 PM
Hi bwb,

I'm quite sure that it has nothing to do with the modified sine wave as it works when you isolate it using another battery so that would show you it is an isolation problem.

If anyone here has a suggestion please go for it as I have no good remedy.

Luc

Thankyou gotoluc
I will do a check on the circuits ground and hopefully find the problem.I appreciate your input and advice very much.I will post it if I find the problem.

Thankyou again.
Bob

PS-- Here is something my brother and I plan on burning with the plasma arc. Woodgas compress in a  tank.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2N0a6Swi00

insane4evr

Hi gmeast,

Thanks for your average current draw calculation. Since the way I understand your circuit, all power comes from the inverter, can you measure inverter current draw from the battery to compare it with the calculation? I am not sure if it will be pulsing or will be filtered by the inverter internal capacitors, etc.