URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[gotoluc]

When I made a hydrogen cell, I shoved the outlet right into the manifold or carb, did't get a whole lot out of it, but I tried it.

How about a little SALT water spray (actually I saw it done and it did seemed to put out much more power).  All these videos and no one can put a little NACL into the water?

Whats up???  Why isn't anyone taking the logical next step?

Good work, but what's up?

Mike

Hi Mike,

thanks for your post.

From what you have shared I see you are ready, willing and have done this step. I'm sure everyone here would love to see a video demonstration of your experiment.

Very much looking forward to a video demo.

Thanks for sharing

Luc

[whizwheel]

Hi Folks,

First let me say that I appreciate each and every one who is actively working on this great system.  It is really good to see so many folks working together to achieve this task.

I have been an automotive mechanic for many years and you men have surpassed anything I ever dreamed.

As for adding water while an engine is running, I have trouble with putting a water hose in the intake and letting the water run with very much volume.  Before unleaded fuel came on the market, the engines used to get carboned up and start making a noise when the carbon built enough in the firing chamber for the piston to come in contact with it.  We would trickle water down the carburetor with the engine revved to about 2,000 rpm.  But we would pour it slow and it would get the carbon out.  I found that using auto transmission fluid was better, but was still careful to pour it slow.  I did one time bend a connecting rod because I let too much trans fluid in.  I have seen engines with several connecting rods bent because people drove into deep water and the ducting behind the grill scooped up too much water.  So I don't think I would stick a water hose running water into the intake of an engine.

Also, there have been several post where people have actually ran their engines with water and this thread is dedicated to a way to provide the simplest way to construct that circuit.  This is a good thing.

I appreciate the cautious approach you folks are taking with this and the plasma spark plug is just one more step in the direction of running an ice on water.  I truly believe it will happen.  People like me who are just starting to learn about electronics need for the folks who pave the way to not leave any stone unturned.

Also, about the spark plug running cool with water on it.  When water goes from liquid to boiling it gives up a tremendous amount of heat.  To prove this, put some water in a pan and heat it to a rolling boil and see how cool the bottom is.  I have won lotsa bets with people betting them I could put my hand on the bottom of a pan with boiling water in it.  It is surprising how cool it is.

All of you folks who are working this system, please continue, you are doing the world a tremendous favor and don't think you dedication and stick-to-it doesn't go unnoticed.

So from me, a nobody in Kansas, here is one big ATTABOY!!!

Sincerely,
Roger

[Cap-Z-ro]

You guys are better than watching serialized television episodes.

I have to say it is refreshing watching this thread develop in a spirit of cooperation camaraderie and a strong sense of purpose toward a common goal.

In reference to the 'water barrier' problem...from what I've observed so far - no water means no power to drive a piston, a mist will produce a localized reaction, and too much water will drown out the plasma spark.

I do not recall anyone immersing the business end of the spark plug in a chamber of water aerated with small bubbles - in so doing giving the plasma access to the oxygen it requires to ignite.

Maybe even use a mild soap diluted adequately to maintain the integrity of the bubbles until used.

Please disregard the above if it doesn't apply.

Just the same tho, I wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life on an ass kicking apparatus if I failed to mention something that would have turned out to be relevant to the free energy cause.

Regards...

[scalar wave]

Regarding my frustration at no water tests; as I've said in the past, I came from, and still pursue the Joe Cell approach, and Ed Gray systems -- I've applied J-cell techniques, and electrolyzer cells to GEO Metro, Ford Van, Landrover pos ground, and stationary 1-cyl systems.

I only have a few photos left in the yahoo joe cell group now (a couple):

http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/photos/view/7172?b=6&m=s&o=0

pure water after charging:


http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/photos/view/7172?b=3&m=s&o=0

You all have made great plasma designs, but I'm hesistant to jump in since S1r's questionable track record of truthfulness, and little to know results with putting water vapor, spray, salt spray, etc. in the cylinder and getting motion.

Thanks, my parts are all ready to go--all I want is some sign of success down this path.

I have the S1r coil done, ha-- why did I do that I ask myself now?

Still very good work guys

Mike

[gmeast]

Regarding my frustration at no water tests; as I've said in the past, I came from, and still pursue the Joe Cell approach, and Ed Gray systems -- I've applied J-cell techniques, and electrolyzer cells to GEO Metro, Ford Van, Landrover pos ground, and stationary 1-cyl systems.

I only have a few photos left in the yahoo joe cell group now (a couple):

http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/photos/view/7172?b=6&m=s&o=0

pure water after charging:


http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/joecellfreeenergydevice/photos/view/7172?b=3&m=s&o=0

You all have made great plasma designs, but I'm hesistant to jump in since S1r's questionable track record of truthfulness, and little to know results with putting water vapor, spray, salt spray, etc. in the cylinder and getting motion.

Thanks, my parts are all ready to go--all I want is some sign of success down this path.

I have the S1r coil done, ha-- why did I do that I ask myself now?

Still very good work guys

Mike

Hi Mike,

Well, the lag is about to change.  I have just finished my power system and am happy with the fact that I can now make a 'blinding' plasma ignition spark that is stable across the full range of frequencies (firing rate).  If you have followed this thread you are aware of several technical problems on several levels.  Ash and Andrew have been testing several iterations of the water spark plug circuit.  I have been concentrating on guaranteeing a high voltage spark at high frequency ... something others have not been so concerned with, specifically, but I have seen (on the o'scope) that the basic voltage multiplier's (commonly used) output degrades with frequency unless the multiplier is designed to support a minimum power throughput.

Now that I have a stable high freq spark I will introduce hot water vapor and various emulsions both via the carburetor and the inlet air flow.

So Stay tuned.  Peace,

Greg