URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[cell1]

Hi,
I ask you because you have experience in this field and you can tell me if need to try.
What it is the difference between a plasma spark  and a spark produced by a oven transformer into a spark plug?
I compared booth spark on the same spark plug and them appear the same as velocity.
Why I ask. I want to try one of two possibilities: One with a fly back transformer (djzissis ideea) or another with an oven transformer (I see at gotoluc something into a youtube video).  My interest it is the intensity of the spark. The HV transformer has a high voltage and very good frequency oscillation bat week intensity.  At this, I suppose, need attached a current intensifier as in your circuit. The oven transformer assures a good intensity and a good voltage but works at low frequency.   

Excuse me for English.

[gmeast]

Hi everyone,

I know it's not much but I just rolled over 101 miles in my test.  You have to rock the Bug to get the fuel gauge to move but that means little to those who know how non-linear those old VW float gauges are. 

I'll probably keep messing with the steam system (not very scientific I admit) but I did make one change that seems to be an improvement.  I added a piece of copper scrub pad over the hot exhaust pipe to force the water to wet the pipe over a larger area.  This also lets me generate more steam.   I might even benefit from some catalysis.  To meter the water a little better, I've ordered a small peristaltic variable metering pump that runs on 12 VDC Ya-hoo ! ... I actually found one.

Some behavior accounts with respect to the steam, normal spark and water spark plug plasma spark:

1. no steam - engine speeds up and slows down when cycling normal / plasma spark - engine speeds with plasma on.

2. steam on / normal spark - engine slows

3. steam on / plasma spark on - engine speed faster than in #1

I've linked before and after pics of the copper 'wick' below:

Peace,

Greg

[thermalenergy]

Hi everyone,

I know it's not much but I just rolled over 101 miles in my test.  You have to rock the Bug to get the fuel gauge to move but that means little to those who know how non-linear those old VW float gauges are. 

I'll probably keep messing with the steam system (not very scientific I admit) but I did make one change that seems to be an improvement.  I added a piece of copper scrub pad over the hot exhaust pipe to force the water to wet the pipe over a larger area.  This also lets me generate more steam.   I might even benefit from some catalysis.  To meter the water a little better, I've ordered a small peristaltic variable metering pump that runs on 12 VDC Ya-hoo ! ... I actually found one.

Some behavior accounts with respect to the steam, normal spark and water spark plug plasma spark:

1. no steam - engine speeds up and slows down when cycling normal / plasma spark - engine speeds with plasma on.

2. steam on / normal spark - engine slows

3. steam on / plasma spark on - engine speed faster than in #1

I've linked before and after pics of the copper 'wick' below:

Peace,

Greg

Hi Greg,
I love your idea to use AC from the alternator instead of from an inverter. It is so simple. That way the intensity corresponds to the speed of the engine, and there's no 60 cycle dead zone. How do you get power to the unit while starting the engine, since the alternator is turning too slow to produce enough voltage? What about using an inverter connected through a relay to the starter, so that when the ignition key is in "start" the inverter supplies power, and when the key is in "run" the alternator supplies power. That way you have the best of both systems. Just a thought.
Joel

[gmeast]

Hi Greg,
I love your idea to use AC from the alternator instead of from an inverter. It is so simple. That way the intensity corresponds to the speed of the engine, and there's no 60 cycle dead zone. How do you get power to the unit while starting the engine, since the alternator is turning too slow to produce enough voltage? What about using an inverter connected through a relay to the starter, so that when the ignition key is in "start" the inverter supplies power, and when the key is in "run" the alternator supplies power. That way you have the best of both systems. Just a thought.
Joel

Hi Joel,

I think you might have mistaken me for someone else.  I'm not using an alternator nor am I using a conventional inverter because my VexUs circuit kept blowing the inverters up.  Instead I'm using a two-transistor oscillator and a voltage multiplier.  The oscillator is sort of like an inverter though.

Sorry I can't lead you to the guy with the alternator.  I don't know.

Peace,

Greg

[thermalenergy]

Hi Joel,

I think you might have mistaken me for someone else.  I'm not using an alternator nor am I using a conventional inverter because my VexUs circuit kept blowing the inverters up.  Instead I'm using a two-transistor oscillator and a voltage multiplier.  The oscillator is sort of like an inverter though.

Sorry I can't lead you to the guy with the alternator.  I don't know.

Peace,

Greg

Hi Greg,
Thank you for the reply and for everything you, luc, ossie, and everyone else I forgot to mention is doing. I'm sorry but I just drew the wrong conclusion about the green wire I saw coming out of the back of the alternator. Just look at the first picture from Reply #2349. I'm ordering the parts to modify my geo metro now, but I think there could be a problem producing plasma at higher RPM's. How does your Vexus system compensate for increased power demand at higher RPM's? I thought you had fixed that problem by tapping the alternator to produce more power at higher RPM's. My goal is to eventually install the system in a 1987 Toyota MR2 with a 1.6 liter four cylinder engine with a factory redline of 7500 RPM's. That's why I'm concerned about losing power at high RPM's. I think you are right on the mark testing everything and gradually increasing the water, and the condition of the water,(steam). Liquid water is not very compressible, but steam compresses well, and mixes well with the air intake. How will you create the steam though, if your engine starts running cold? Sorry for the long post, but I think your design is the best one to use in a vehicle, so I think these problems are minor in comparison to those you have already overcome.
Thank You,
Joel