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[higherpoweredh2o]

Thank you for the reply gm east.  It was very informative. And will help me in my application. I will be taking a very complex approach to hydroxy cold vapor and plasma that will help all I am sure.

I have already

egt
wideband
pressure transducers for cylinder.

and soon

actual flame temperature measurment probes for combustion.
will also be using 360 degree cam- crank correlation to use accelerometer math to find detonation and such.


Thanks for all this info.



also 1 more question. I am using a msd 6a box as well as a timing computer that allows static timing change on the fly.
Will the multiple spark have a downfall with plasma? Which style plasma system would be more beneficial. Gotluc simpler system or gmeast transducer style system?

I will try both fo experimental purposes but wanted opinions on which to try first.

Thanks again for all the hard work and sharing so far. I will try to shed some light on this field with tuning principles and sophisticated data acquisition equipment. also if  I should post computer data log files here or host them somewhere else? Any ideas for info hosting?
I am not very internet savvy. It will be video and data log files. I will provide software to allow viewing of files.


Thanks

Rob

[higherpoweredh2o]

ps I have also made firestorm type plugs with tungsten style ground straps and sphere. Hopefully it helps with wear.

[gmeast]

Thank you for the reply gm east.  It was very informative. And will help me in my application.
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also 1 more question. I am using a msd 6a box as well as a timing computer that allows static timing change on the fly.
Will the multiple spark have a downfall with plasma? Which style plasma system would be more beneficial. Gotluc simpler system or gmeast transducer style system?

I will try both fo experimental purposes but wanted opinions on which to try first.

Thanks again for all the hard work and sharing so far. I will try to shed some light on this field with tuning principles and sophisticated data acquisition equipment. also if  I should post computer data log files here or host them somewhere else? Any ideas for info hosting?
I am not very internet savvy. It will be video and data log files. I will provide software to allow viewing of files.


Thanks

Rob

Hi Rob,

I'm not sure what you mean when you refer to the VexUs (gmeast) as 'transducer style' ... not important.  My system is an inspired offshoot of Luc's original observations and prototypes.  Mine just 'piggyback' onto the standard spark much the way the Nexus from Sky Hero does ... but different grounding.  I'm not sure our plasma circuits can handle the frequency of multiple spark events. At present, its designed for single event ignition.  On the other hand I see no reason why proper component selection for R1 and C1 should not allow it.  There has been a consensus among those of us here, Luc and company, as well as Aaron from Energetic Forum that multiple events could take advantage of the Lorentz effect and blow the plasma out into the combustion chamber.   

Data sharing can take any form.  I think a simple link to an ftp site would work well.  Most isp accounts provide several megs if not gigs of free ftp space for personal home pages, etc.  This sharing isn't commercial so your isp should not object ... the only traffic will be those like us and it will only be download.  That's what I'm doing with some of my info'.

Greg

[higherpoweredh2o]

Greg,

Thanks for clearing that up. I am not an electrical engineer (obviously) I understand about enough to get dangerous. I was referring to nexus style just for initial ease of build. The multi-strike will be tried and compared to a single event ignition. I am working with many styles of technology and am combining them to re-invent the wheel with the current infrastructure. I have a fundamental understanding of an engine that very few have, and work with the mechanical aspect of that field. I am a person who cuts through the confusion with logic and a very mechanical visualization of the engines events. This approach has allowed me to make power and efficiency where others say its tapped out.

All I do is simplify the problem and take what most feel a complex solution to that problem. In reality its a very simple, logical application. Engines talk if you will, and I am in tune with their language. This is why every shop puts me in the lead diagnostic position so I get all the hard jobs. This has been frustrating but has also tuned my skills. I hope to be a part of this world changing application. The way I see an engine is the principles of using the fuel is completely backwards. We use heat to generate power, instead of harnessing the fuels we now have to create a series of explosions in a controlled environment to make heat the byproduct. We now are using power as the byproduct. Its all very simple when you break it down. We have just been lazy for the past 100 years and the current methods are out of convenience not necessity.


The really good part about my research is We should be able to fix our mpg and pollution problems with current infrastructure. We dont need redesigned engines or total electric cars. We just need to change our application norms. To me electric is not a very good solution. The lithium batts now used are a mechanics, firemans, and environmental nightmare. I have personally seen cars damn near blown in half with a battery form a hybrid. I was getting hazard pay every time I had to work on one in the shop. Something is off here.

Of course most of this opinion, but if you look at history, society,s generally jump into what looks good today without figuring out long term ramifications of tomorrow. This is where I see current green cars stand today. We can solve the problem, In my opinion, Without recreating the wheel. We just need the transmission to be in drive instead of reverse.


Enough of my thought process its time to get to work and put the " proof in the pudding"...



May GOD bless you all,

Rob


Rob

[gmeast]

Greg,

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Thanks for clearing that up. I am not an electrical engineer (obviously) I understand about enough to get dangerous. I was referring to nexus style just for initial ease of build. 

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The way I see an engine is the principles of using the fuel is completely backwards.

We use heat to generate power, instead of harnessing the fuels we now have to create a series of explosions in a controlled environment to make heat the byproduct.

We now are using power as the byproduct. Its all very simple when you break it down. We have just been lazy for the past 100 years and the current methods are out of convenience not necessity.

Enough of my thought process its time to get to work and put the " proof in the pudding"...

May GOD bless you all,

Rob

Hi Rob,

We seem to have the same goal ... in a sense.   I've already shown that exchanging heat for pressure by heating an inert gas (in this case steam) along with the combustion gasses you can lower the combustion and exhaust temperatures thereby reducing the heat wasted in cooling the engine.  There is a point of diminishing returns where thermal efficiency will begin to suffer but I feel we are far from that point.  Besides, you get to use existing engine design and construction. This is a less complicated exploration compared to the technical rigors involved with the alternative ... the adiabatic engine ... where you run everything RED HOT.  This presents material science challenges and involves a whole new engine design.

If you are planning to use Bob Cozzolino's Nexus circuit I would try and find the most current technical updates because the last info' posted here reported some 'cross talk' and plug wear issues.  You might consider doing the extra 'pain in the butt' work involving building the oscillator and consider the VexUs Hybrid CDI Plasma circuit.  It's been running for months without incident.  If you could provide me with the specifics of the ignition box you're planning to use ... coil voltage, event frequency and duration I could try and size R1 and C1 for the job.

Either way, good luck with your exploration of efficieny.

Greg