Even the President wants a working model

[ResinRat2]

Stan Meyers drove his hydrogen powered dune buggy across the United States to demonstrate his technology. It worked back then, so he knew what he was doing. It is just that he was very protective of the technology and did not fully disclose it in the patents. This is not unusual, and anyone who has dealt with patents (my name is on two so far) knows that only the barest possible information required to get the patent is ever disclosed. This is to protect the technology and not give every detail away. It is usually presented in a general way. Examples that are presented in patents may or may not work as they are presented, but the general theme is disclosed enough to cover the technology legally and protect the inventor.

So to answer your question: no, this does not cause me to pause, it is just the way of the real world.

Stan Meyers has said that the United States Government classified his technology as important to national security. Funny how he died right after signing contracts with the US government to begin developing his technology.

You can find this information on your own just by searching Stan Meyers name on any internet search engine. There is plenty of videos and material to see. Even lectures that he gave on his technology.

My only point is that this technology is already know by the US Government, and it is not being developed.

[utilitarian]

Stan Meyers drove his hydrogen powered dune buggy across the United States to demonstrate his technology. It worked back then, so he knew what he was doing. It is just that he was very protective of the technology and did not fully disclose it in the patents. This is not unusual, and anyone who has dealt with patents (my name is on two so far) knows that only the barest possible information required to get the patent is ever disclosed. This is to protect the technology and not give every detail away. It is usually presented in a general way. Examples that are presented in patents may or may not work as they are presented, but the general theme is disclosed enough to cover the technology legally and protect the inventor.

So to answer your question: no, this does not cause me to pause, it is just the way of the real world.

Stan Meyers has said that the United States Government classified his technology as important to national security. Funny how he died right after signing contracts with the US government to begin developing his technology.

You can find this information on your own just by searching Stan Meyers name on any internet search engine. There is plenty of videos and material to see. Even lectures that he gave on his technology.

My only point is that this technology is already know by the US Government, and it is not being developed.

Sorry, but there is no evidence to support what you say.  It is just wishful thinking.  I went out and read about Stan Meyer on the Internet.  Here are some interesting things I found:

1.  Meyer never actually drove his dune buggy across the U.S. as you say.  He merely claimed it was possible based on some short demonstrations.

2.  There was never any independent verification of his claims.

3.  He was convicted of "gross and egregious fraud" for duping some investors.  During the litigation, his water fuel cell was examined by three experts who found nothing out of the ordinary.

4.  No poison was found in his system or in the food he ate.

5.  He gave expert Professor Michael Laughton what was described as a "lame excuse" a few days before an examination of his car.

6.  Yes, it appears that he did yell out that he was poisoned when he felt sick at the restaurant.  But the man was notoriously paranoid.  He once called a bomb squad to his house to examine a suspicious package, which turned out to be simply some parts he had ordered.

Lastly, a comment about what you said regarding patents.  While it is true that patent holders often omit some details to try to preserve some secrets, there is a fine line to be drawn.  If the invention is not the same as the patent, a patent may not protect it.  In our case, there are some very specific electric circuits that are patented.  If the actual working circuits are different from these, then the patent is worthless.

I have looked at some of these patents, and they are pretty detailed.  If the secret of overunity is there, someone should be able to replicate them.

[ResinRat2]

Very good, I am glad you set the record straight for all.

[hartiberlin]

Sorry, but there is no evidence to support what you say.  It is just wishful thinking.  I went out and read about Stan Meyer on the Internet.  Here are some interesting things I found:

1.  Meyer never actually drove his dune buggy across the U.S. as you say.  He merely claimed it was possible based on some short demonstrations.

2.  There was never any independent verification of his claims.

3.  He was convicted of "gross and egregious fraud" for duping some investors.  During the litigation, his water fuel cell was examined by three experts who found nothing out of the ordinary.

4.  No poison was found in his system or in the food he ate.

5.  He gave expert Professor Michael Laughton what was described as a "lame excuse" a few days before an examination of his car.

6.  Yes, it appears that he did yell out that he was poisoned when he felt sick at the restaurant.  But the man was notoriously paranoid.  He once called a bomb squad to his house to examine a suspicious package, which turned out to be simply some parts he had ordered.

Lastly, a comment about what you said regarding patents.  While it is true that patent holders often omit some details to try to preserve some secrets, there is a fine line to be drawn.  If the invention is not the same as the patent, a patent may not protect it.  In our case, there are some very specific electric circuits that are patented.  If the actual working circuits are different from these, then the patent is worthless.

I have looked at some of these patents, and they are pretty detailed.  If the secret of overunity is there, someone should be able to replicate them.

@utilitarian

do you have some documents for this that you can prove this all ?

We have seen the dune buggy driven in one youtube video and
the reporter says, it just runs on water..

Also there is another videos, where he is showing that one big electrolysis
cell is running his buggy in front of his garage.
Also I have a video on my

overunitydotcom

youtube user account,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lio-0aH6qTg

where Meyer presented his new sparkplugs and one english investor told
the cameraman, that they have tested the system and that it works great...

So as you don?t have presented any supportive documents about your negative claims,
I just see this as negative claims with no validation...

So from what did he die then, if he was not poisoned ?

[ResinRat2]

Good job utilitarian, now you got the Overunity Moderator irritated with you. Personally, I just didn't want to waste my time with you.