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Overunity Machines Forum



Hubbard coil

Started by EMdevices, July 01, 2008, 05:03:36 PM

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pauldude000

@Giantkiller

You are getting there but you are not there quite yet.

What you are looking at (I believe) is the beginning of additive or true harmonic resonance, as Tesla was continually after in his work.

I like your tuning fork mental example. In a simplified understanding of basic resonance, the pulse flows through the wire, hits what appears as an electrical brick wall which absorbs the energy, which then releases it to flow in the other direction. However, the voltage was not at proper cycle and some energy is lost, and the wave does not match the spatial displacement of the next wave being sent, so the voltages actually decrease each other. The waves pulse back and forth, but die out. (Transformer action, or Non-Q basic resonance.)

Now, we have another coil, where the input pulse frequency is an exact 1/4 wavelength of the length of the wire it is input into. It hits the "brick wall" at exactly full voltage. It then rebounds. At the other end it is exactly opposite, and rebounds. However, every pulse is exactly matching in spacial displacement as every other wave. These waves then do NOT cancel out each others voltage, they add to each other. However, there is only one set of frequencies flowing through the wire, so the voltage addition is limited. But the coil is "ringing", putting out a steady amplification. This is where both you and I are at at this time.

Now, what we are after is the coil where more than one frequency is based upon this 1/4 wavelength principle.With two or more frequencies in PERFECT harmony in spatial displacement, the voltage summing can RAMP, and all waves reinforce (both voltage AND current) each other.       Each separate reflection of each wave will sum again with every other reflection of every other wave in the circuit. (Tesla's actual goal and main achievement in various devices.) 

Loner came up with an awesome manner of finding self resonance, using an armstrong based oscillator and feedback. It has no choice but to resonate at the proper frequency for whatever coil is used. HOWEVER THIS IS ONLY ONE FREQUENCY, yet his amplification has been dramatic. Massive fields are generated even with this. (read loners "TPU facts and results" thread for more info. Loner has done quite well.)

What is needed is two or three such circuits driving. The first as normal, the second with a separate inductance to through it out of phase with the first, and possibly others with an inductance/capacitance tank between oscillator output and TPU input.

You now see how it fits perfectly hand in hand with your understanding and description of the wave action.

Paul Andrulis
Finding truth can be compared to panning for gold. It generally entails sifting a huge amount of material for each nugget found. Then checking each nugget found for valuable metal or fool's gold.

pauldude000

The above is a somewhat two dimensional interpretation, and I know this already. Apply it three dimensionally upon the COLLECTOR coil, and notice that the rotating field is not included in this interpretation. The rotating field is what is absolutely necessary for the completed TPU device.

For right now, I am going to leave it up to you all to envision the field produced by such described harmonics, which is also self amplifying by the way.

Remember that the voltage/current are directly tied hand in hand with ALL of the fields produced by said. Change or modify one, you change or modify all.

I will also leave it up you all to visualize the effects of a field rotating in one direction slamming into such produced magnetic waves, and the effects of what would happen. The fields. The viewable output.


EDIT ADDED:

Hint, envision two dimensionally if necessary at first, then apply to three or more dimensions and let your imagination smooth out the details. Think of all fields somewhat like really flexible balloons, or like water. Whatever works for you.

2 Dimensional thinking is not enough. You have X and Y (Height and width) but no depth of perspective.
3 Dimensional thinking is not enough. You have X, Y, and Z (Height, width, and depth) but inflexibility of change.
4 Dimensional thinking gets you there. You have X,Y,Z, and T (Height, width, depth, and time, or motion which is relational change over time).

Paul Andrulis
Finding truth can be compared to panning for gold. It generally entails sifting a huge amount of material for each nugget found. Then checking each nugget found for valuable metal or fool's gold.

Grumpy

Has anyone noticed that Hubbard's device does not have condensers?  We have a HV source, a cummutator of sorts (automobile distributor and motor), possible a spark gap other than the distributor (he has a patent for a spark plug but I can't determine if it is used in this device), cores that are possibly magnetic, and 9 coils.

Sounds like he may be impact exciting the 8 outer coils by charging and connecting the primary coil.  This was an alternative means to excite Tesla's "extra coil" as put forth by Steinmetz.  Output would be the secondaries of the 8 with the primaries of the 8 emiting RE, and now we see why the cores might be magnetic.  ;)

Something like this:
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
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pauldude000

@Grumpy

It would require an extremely high voltage input (car coil or equivalent) to excite your system. The distributor IS a commutator of sorts, but there is a several thousandths inch gap between the rotor electrode and the cap electrodes that the spark has to jump, and then it has to jump the gap at the spark plug as well.

What is interesting is that I never though of using a couple of car distributors for a quenched rotary spark gap before. :D

Or for that matter multiple spark plugs...... Hmmm....

Paul Andrulis
Finding truth can be compared to panning for gold. It generally entails sifting a huge amount of material for each nugget found. Then checking each nugget found for valuable metal or fool's gold.

Grumpy

the article I found said Hubbard used an 11.25 KV DC supply - which can easily jump these gaps.

The Steinmetz means of coil excitation (for oscillations, traveling waves and such) was the only thing I could think of that fit with what little is known about the device.  It is not a very well-known method of achieving Tesla's results.

The cores would have to be magnetized.  To induce a change in the tempic field you must use the electric and magnetic fields.  Spark discharges are the electric and the magnets are the magnetic.  He could easily have magnetized iron rods with a battery and the article said that the rods were separated and packed with something?  he could have used iron rods and magnetite from his back yard with glue and put the juice to them - ta-da large bar magnet core.  Hell, he could have packed it in the tube and then magnetized it. 

He may have used no spark plug at all or used the spark plug after the distributor to try to sharpen the pulse.  Hell, he could have put the plugs in the distributor cap too - LOL!

Yes, rotary gap would do same.
It is the men of insight and the men of unobstructed vision of every generation who are able to lead us through the quagmire of a in-a-rut thinking. It is the men of imagination who are able to see relationships which escape the casual observer. It remains for the men of intuition to seek answers while others avoid even the question.
                                                                                                                                    -Frank Edwards