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99% working wheel!!!

Started by broli, July 01, 2008, 07:58:52 PM

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broli

Oke seeing the significance of this I decided to start a new thread.

check -> http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,5034.msg109323.html#msg109323


I think I've found what some might call the holy grail. I found a wheel that exerts more force on one side all the time. I call it the superwheel! I did many wm2d tests and I concluded it's just rubbish trying to simulate it since while it's giving me the correct forces the overall behavior is wrong. My latest simulation includes computing my own torque (by using the cross product) of the contribution of both opposite joints. And what I can conclude is that there's about 10x more torque on one side. Which also is inline with what the theory would tell you. Wm2d's torque on the other hand is faulty as can be seen in the simulation as well.

Here's a high res video...

http://ziosproject.com/NJ/superwheel3.rar

Here's the simulation file...

http://ziosproject.com/NJ/superwheel.wm2d

And a pic of it at about 5 o 'clock so you can see the values...



Please give some feedback!

Edit:I already have a V2  ;D. It's indeed this simple.

http://ziosproject.com/NJ/superwheel2.wm2d


PS: Why are the pics fuzzy only in the post.


AB Hammer

Greetings broli

I have seen these actions before in my slide weight units without the controls. So I am afraid to tell you that you don't have it yet. But remember what Bessler said about lifting 4lb with 1lb and try to work something that does that in your simulations and then you will be on the wright track.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

broli

Quote from: AB Hammer on July 01, 2008, 09:06:25 PM
Greetings broli

I have seen these actions before in my slide weight units without the controls. So I am afraid to tell you that you don't have it yet. But remember what Bessler said about lifting 4lb with 1lb and try to work something that does that in your simulations and then you will be on the wright track.

hey hammer, you'll need to give me more info than a vague reference. Why wouldn't it work? There's clearly more force on one side. Do you understand the concept?

AB Hammer

@ broli

The force is greater for a very short time, then it becomes a negative force against you. This keeps the lift from going over and then it just rocks back and forth until stop. I have seen it over and over in attempts with any form of sliding weight. But all is not lost, but you will have to learn how to float a weight. I know floating a weight seems like a riddle, but it is as it sounds, to make a heavy weight light, so it can be moved with a quarter of the weight or less. This keeps the counter balance from counter acting on the shifts effect.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

broli

For a very short time? Do the numbers of the simulation not convince you? The force is almost at all times 10x larger. And I'm not using a shifting weight concept. This is why I asked whether you understood the concept which I doubt you did. I guess I have to try and build this my own.