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S1r PDF coil description and discussion !!!!

Started by xbox hacker, July 08, 2008, 03:20:41 PM

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vrand

Quote from: vrand on July 18, 2008, 01:14:43 AM
What size and type/mfg engine are you using? 

Capacitor70 engine info posted at "WaterFuel1978" Fuel egroup,

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Post # 6104, Capacitor70 Design Details, July 8, 2008: 
.....7. I tried my circuit with 4 stroke 125CC bike engine and 2HP engine
it is not giving single fire. But it is giving little better
results with 80CC 4 Stroke engine Kinetic K4, as you seen in
youtube video.


Post #6055 Plasma water bike, July 7, 2008
Hi, this my first post,

Engine which I am using is NOT TWO STROKE,

Its
4 Stroke 80CC, Kinetic K4 bike engine

I am around you for any help, please feel free to PM me on youtube or
overunity, I am not posting details on other site to stay out of
confusion....

You need to increase diodes if you are not getting any plasma blast...

Today I am again working on 2HP low compression engine, because piston
rings of Kinetic K4 Engine are faulty, oil is coming out from kick
(oil seal) and also on spark plug tip creating problem for more tests,
leg is giving pain...
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Maybe not getting engine firing on the larger engine (125cc vs 80cc) is due to not enough water fuel in cylinders?

Fuel delivery seems to be the next major issue to resolve in running an engine, after developing the spark plasma system.

Regards,
Michael Randall

forest

Quote from: allcanadian on July 20, 2008, 11:58:46 AM
@forest
From some of your previous posts I believe you know more than you are telling us ;D I find my answers from the source---Tesla's work and others.

@All
I have built gotoluc's circuit and can produce extreme dicharges(very loud) at up to 3/8" gap, but there is a problem I knew of before I built the circuit. The weak point is the relay contacts, they must handle large disruptive current flows which erodes and sometimes welds together the contacts. A better way would be to remove the relay from the circuit and utilize the high voltage side to control the low voltage high current flow, meaning no moving parts or diodes or spark gaps.
To be honest, if you asked me how this S1R circuit works two years ago I would tell you it cannot work because the high voltage from the ignition coil has no power in itself. I can discharge it into a coil or resistive lighting filament and nothing happens---the amperage is to low. And then I read a statement from another member that changed my perspective of how things work in nature, "Nature works indirectly". While one quality of field may appear to have no power in and of itself, it can apply force to a complementary field, this field could constitute a field in opposition to the original field in which force is applied.
If we can concieve that we live in a world of opposites, that every thing must have by nature an opposite, then we are missing something which must be a fundamental force in nature. That is the "Diamagnetic Field" which must oppose by nature the only field we know of--- the magnetic field. Diamagnetism is not a magnetic field of opposite polarity, that is SN<----->NS, it is a field which expells all magnetism irregardless of polarity----an impolar field only in appearance as it must have opposition within itself.
Based on experiments I have done towards understanding the diamagnetic field, I believe from what I have seen that S1R's circuit is utilizing this effect.

@allcanadian
It is very interesting.Hmm,so you states that this is 'diamagnetic field' interacting with Earth magnetic field ? . Seems that you are a step ahead of me :-)

Ok, you have given nice explanation, it's time to describe what I've learned. There is not much of it , because I have no deep electrical knowledge and most I had learned in school I forgot.

Searching among Tesla articles,patents, lectures I cannot find if and when he used DC like high frequency currents. All what is described are AC currents of high frequency. Their usage for artificial illumination is described in details while DC impulses of high frequency are only mentioned. Yet I believe Tesla used them for his wireless transmission.

It is a known fact that he first thought that produces waves/field is sent thought the rarefied  air and maybe it can work to the some extend but not as great as thought the ground.He maybe thought that this field is electrostatic in nature and only later discovered by experiments and notes from others (Stubblefield - Earth currents) that it was a flawed theory.

Wile electromagnetic field is not dependant on any external field someone would speculate about other waves...dependent on a medium to propagate...

One may imagine a  scalar pure magnetic wave in Earth magnetic field.They exists, many types - some of them are described by Alfven
but probably not all. Seems that this information is also supressed.
I can imagine a wave which is propagating in steps - first ahead then return back. If it find another forcing impulse right in the proper time when coming back  it takes additional momentum and goes further and becomes stronger.
Of course it's clear that such a wave cannot be propelled by alternating force nor it is electromagnetic in nature.

Now  someone should explain why it is a rare effect , how to produce it, why we are not observing it. It's beyond my knowledge, I could only speculate that our worst enemy which hides that effects is electromagnetic radiation. Tesla had spoken about it  - his circuits  generated only 10% of electromagnetic radiation 95% of energy was preserved and used.

My advice : Eliminate electromagnetic radiation - you should see a plenty of miracle effects.

I can also speculate (based on my minimal knowledge) that electric part of electromagnetic wave is the key which limits those effects.

Maybe that's why Tesla did a break immediately at the peak of current change ? That produce magnetic kick, but not powering circuit during lowering edge of pulse must have peculiar advantage which I don't understand - maybe this half of the wave is the source of electric compound of electromagnetic wave ?

That's all. Now I hope that you explain me the rest ;-)

allcanadian

@forest
Quote@allcanadian
It is very interesting.Hmm,so you states that this is 'diamagnetic field' interacting with Earth magnetic field ? . Seems that you are a step ahead of me :-)
I never said it was the "Earths" magnetic field that a diamagnetic field could interact with, Any magnetic field ;) as they are opposite conditions.   
               
Magnetic<---neutral center--->Diamagnetic

QuoteMaybe that's why Tesla did a break immediately at the peak of current change ? That produce magnetic kick, but not powering circuit during lowering edge of pulse must have peculiar advantage which I don't understand - maybe this half of the wave is the source of electric compound of electromagnetic wave ?
If you seek understanding of this one point you have just mentioned you will be years ahead of everyone else, the fact that you have acknowleged this is an important piece of the puzzle in itself is a very good sign.
Best Regards
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

Bruce_TPU

@ Forest

The answer is in learning to produce Longitudinal waves. and then to capture them, turning them back to useful energy.  Radiant Energy, Radiant electricity, was Tesla's Secret.  He saw it, learned to replicate it, and then learned to recapture it to use it.  High voltage pulses are a starting place but there is much more.  This RE interacts with the Ether or comes from the Ether, or everything is Ether and it is just another variant.  A matter of perspective I imagine.

This is off subject, so back to the topic at hand.  Has anyone put a pickup coil near the tip of the spark, and scoped across it?  Has anyone scoped the HV output?  Just wondering.  ;)

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

forest

Quote from: Loner on July 22, 2008, 04:23:56 AM
I'm not used to throwing in information with no testing to back it up, but a lot of info seems to be going
around that is ignoring the "original" S1R coil setup.  (I don't even have proof of it's operation, but ....)

There were Two Coils, not transformer connected (Magnetically, that is) and one had two windings.  The
relays used were (This from others research, but it's in the original PDF) to swap between compressors.

This immeadately implies that the two winding coil had bucking winds, which would "Decrease" the mag
field.  Now there is also the patent, just shown around here a short while back, about a transformer wind
that used "Opposite" direction winds, but they were not wound over each other.

I hope that what I have just stated gets my concept across.  I'm not good at putting this type of understanding
into words.  If the HV is in one wind, the LV in the Buck wind, with the second coil parallel to these other tw,
and now the current flow from the HV spark starts the current flow for LV while canceling the Mag field in a
coil that happens to be at a good spot for RE transmission, while this 2 wind coil is receiving during a mag
field suppresed moment during a current "increase"....

Sorry, but reading what I just wrote shows my explanation skills stink.  In my own thoughts, I always take
into account that the actual energy flow IS NOT just what is in the wires as "Electron" motion, nor is the
"Magnetic" field the major component.  Making USE of this other component is the ideal method.  Also
note.  (Not to further confuse the issue, but)   In other threads (SEC, HHO, etc.) it has been plainly noted
that HHO production is GREATLY enhanced by RE.  If the Spark (Plasma or otherwise) has a large amount
of RE being used, then the Water IS going to be broken down, if you want to accept it or not.  This will NOT
be properly measureable, nor will the looks of the Plasma spark be a lot of help, unless you work with RE and
tesla coils a lot....   If someone had a calibrated RE meter, then OK, but I would love to see one.  It took me
a lot of work to be able to make circuitry just to properly detect RE, and it really has no accuracy.  I can
feel it better than measure it.  (I didn't say that.  Just a joke.)

Either way, I'm fairly sure that RE, HHO, and specific coil construction for energy timing will solve the problem.
I don't mean ignition timing of the engine, but If I got my message across, I'm sure you understand.

Of course, this could be totally wrong.  I've run an engine on HHO, but never on pure water input to the Cyl.

Good luck.  If I ever get these other two items working, I'll be trying to help full force, but I don't understand
this "Energy Conversion" process well enough yet to really be able to pull coil specs out of the air.

Art.

WOW!

Can you describe how to detect RE other then using own skin  ? I would like to step frequency up and use some meter to measure RE intensity.