URGENT! WATER AS FUEL ENGINE DISCOVERED AND PATENTED

[resonanceman]

Haha that would be nice, take a regular car engine, take the exhaust off, and make a hose from the exhaust manifold directly to the intake manifold. If it is running on hho then the water in the exhaust gasses would be reused directly as fuel again. You dont even need a turbo charger....Only add a HV spark!

Greetings Spider,

Vroom vroom...

Spider

It is not  quite that simple

The  way you  wrote  it ........it sounds like you  are thinking  of  recycling  the  exhaust  to the same  cylinder .
It  can't  work   using the same cylinder
The phase    is wrong  .     

If you    use  2 cylinders  90  degrees out of  phase ........   you end up  with a  sterling engine .   
You  would need   a new manifold to  direct  the air   back and forth  between  the  cylinders 
No  valves would  be needed

To make it more efficient    heat  collectors  should  be put in the  manifold

I  see no reason  that  a   constant  arc  would not work .



Making  a water arc  sterling  is  on my to do list .





gary

[nightlife]

I had came across this before and I was asked to find it again and I have not been able to. This is that motor and I too believe it is and or can be ran off water.

Here is the video I seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Ztw0nYVS0

Thank you for starting this thread.

[tishatang]

@resonanceman
It might be easier to convert a two cylinder air compressor head.  You can get an inline or V-2 replacement from harborfreight.com pretty cheap.  You could rig up a regular induction motor as a starter with a sprague clutch to disengage once it fires up.  As I recall, you can run a three phase motor on regular single phase AC.  You need to use a capacitor across the third coil.  If you get it to run, the third coil can be supplied with DC from the battery and it becomes a generator.  Then you wouldn't need the sprague clutch and you would have a home power plant if all goes well.

@nightlife
Here is another link to a Papp video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kQ9MdoKT7I

If you read through the 1972 patent, it goes into detail about first filling the chamber with de-oxygenated water (deionized?).  Then adding chlorine to saturation and displacing more and more water, with the noble gases.  The 1984 patent never mentions the water pre-charging process.  It just references the earlier patent.  It seems to me, water is the biggest proportion of fuel in the combustion chambers when all is said and done.  A lot of detail is about mixing the gases in the special holding chambers.  These gases are not in direct contact with the water/gas combo in the working combustion chamber..  To me this is a water engine with lots of diversion going on with what's really happening.  Lots of places to hide a simple diode to convert regular spark vs plasma spark as per latest Peter video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlMELbK8zDQ

Tishatang

[pese]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2850891179207690407  PAPP
http://www.rexresearch.com/papp/1papp.htm  Papp Noble Gaz Motor Patent
http://www.infinite-energy.com/iemagazine/issue51/papp.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kQ9MdoKT7I  Papp Noble Gas

[pese]

http://www.greenoptimistic.com/2008/03/15/joseph-papps-inert-noble-gas-engine/

http://www.americanantigravity.com/documents/The-Mystery-and-Legacy-of-Joseph-Papp.pdf

http://www.americanantigravity.com/documents/The-Mystery-and-Legacy-of-Joseph-Papp.pdf

http://sci.tech-archive.net/Archive/sci.energy.hydrogen/2006-09/msg00082.html

http://panacea-bocaf.org/files/TopTen.pdf
  Here PAPP the lastone ( !!

http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/
http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:Joseph_Papp's_Noble_Gas_Engine

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Academy:Video_of_Jimmy_Sabori's_Papp_Engine_Variants
http://pesn.com/Radio/Free_Energy_Now/shows/2006/11/25/9700216_Papp_Engine/
http://www.rexresearch.com/papp/1papp.htm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Papp
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Inventors/JosephPapp/index.html
http://rohnermachine.com/Files/joecellfmessages.pdf
http://makeyourdepth.blogspot.com/2005/10/who-was-josef-papp.html
http://www.rexresearch.com/papp/2pappats.htm
http://www.greenoptimistic.com/2008/03/15/joseph-papps-inert-noble-gas-engine/
http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/Chapter8.pdf
Noble Gas Motors (AEROPS Engine)  Britt, Robert Gordon  seach this !!
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