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Overunity Machines Forum



Selfrunning Waterpump-generator device runs 60 Watts lamp...

Started by hartiberlin, July 16, 2008, 03:09:31 PM

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HEYDUDE

Maybe this will help:

I usually test my purported FE devices in the closed loop mode with external power applied and then throttle back current (not voltage) to the machine until it just stops running. The current required to keep it running tells me what the losses in the system are. If it keeps running when external current supplied goes to zero, I have a winner, no changeover switch required.

This eliminates the need for fancy switchover schemes, although if JDHardy would just use a transfer switch, he would be headed in the right direction.

It also allows you to adjust the system close to the edge to make minor adjustments to improve efficiency.

I dont know if JDHardys generator will also run as a motor (most AC and DC machines will), but if I were doing this type of experiment, I would try the method outlined above.

He could use a bank of parallel lamps from the line to the machine, get the machine up and running,  and switch off lamps one at a time. This would be a crude but effective current source. Naturally his pulley ratios would have to be worked close to mains frequency to allow lock-on.

Since the generator is initially driven as a motor, the system will come up to speed faster

There are variations on this theme, e.g. with a few more switches, the lamp bank can be disconnected from the mains and transferred across the system and now would function as a load bank to test OU power output capability (assuming a self runner).

Regards..HD


fritz

Quote from: khabe on August 22, 2008, 04:34:59 PM
Main question is - was your first video just a trick, and you just believed that this kind of overunity is possible? Now you are trying to do it in reality but ... khm...khm ...
You posted Jul 20 (!!!)
"I will be making a new video next week with the machine up on caster wheels and the machine will be running while I am walking around it 360 degrees.  There will also be better lighting, longer running time and the machine will be in the middle of  the room to demonstrate that there are no hidden wires or compartments.  Additionally, the video will show an update on the pump. Sorry I haven't gotten back sooner but I have been swamped with emails."
Very simple - just new video - "there are no hidden wires or compartments" ...................... Unfortunately not seen,
You claimed your video is truth,
You had one month to tell that it was not ... was just a "little bid" assisted model of daydream-machine ...

khabe,
55

You had a month to say anything useful.
Even if I click on the other posts you did the last month on other threads ...
98% a pain.

Maybe you just want to be loved - and don?t get that
in real life. This is why you pile up agression - so you dump your frustration
and lack of self - confidence here.
You want to hurt - because other hurt you.
I didn?t hurt you, James didn?t hurt you, we just complain
that we are sick of reading your mail.
Every day at the same time - dumping your frustration.

make a change. let love in.

Pirate88179

@ James:

As I suggested before, don't waste your time and energy on these few people.  (No names mentioned but you know who you are)  Please continue to post here and update the 99% of the decent folks here that want and hope for you to succeed.  Please count me as one of them.
By posting here you open yourself up to criticism, but you also open yourself up to many folks that are experts in various fields and will share information in a constructive manner.  Most of us here on on your side.  Ignore the rest.  They will get bored eventually and go away.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

khabe

WATER MACHINE 1620
Water flowing down turns an pump which transports the water back up. There are many variants of this idea:
a electric motor which turns a generator whose electricity is used to power the motor.
In all of these ideas, there is a twist like some kind of gear or change of voltage which confuses a naive observer.

Dont get your back up, Fritz and few else whippersnappers >:(
Chill out, relax ... jerk off and then sleep it off,

see again when next moviegoing :o
khabe

spinner

Quote from: khabe on August 23, 2008, 08:43:30 AM
WATER MACHINE 1620
Water flowing down turns an pump which transports the water back up. There are many variants of this idea:
a electric motor which turns a generator whose electricity is used to power the motor.
In all of these ideas, there is a twist like some kind of gear or change of voltage which confuses a naive observer.

Dont get your back up, Fritz and few else whippersnappers >:(
Chill out, relax ... jerk off and then sleep it off,

see again when next moviegoing :o
khabe

Lol, the futility of such arrangements (self driven, "perpetual" watermills, or self-blown windmils...) is best shown with Robert Fludd's contraption from the 17th century! Just follow the turning directions of all the spinning parts, and you'll understand...

I see a skeptical view is not very welcomed here... Don't worry, you just have to provide a decent proof and you'll win.

So far, we've seen a video (jeez... that must be a proof...) and we heard a few unbelievable  claims from the inventor himself... Beside the perpetual motion claimed for the setup, we heard that the inventor discovered a permanent magnet perpetual motor a few years ago, but (for some unknown reason) it never saw a public release... ?!?!

Not a single (fair!) question was answered...
Not a shred of a proof provided...
There is no qualified measurements...
Inventor doesn't know much about the physics...
He already gathered a circle of true believers...
...Which are experts for "paranormal" and "OU" things...
...and they advise him not to listen to skeptical garbage...
..JD, naturally, agrees with it and demands from some of us to go away...

Priceless!

I suggest you to hurry up with your modified setup, JD. Otherwise you may end like a thousands of people, who had similar ideas before you....

You should invite your partners/experts to explain a few things here... A good discussion, why not?



Quote from: Pirate88179 on August 22, 2008, 11:28:02 PM
@ James:

As I suggested before, don't waste your time and energy on these few people.  (No names mentioned but you know who you are)  Please continue to post here and update the 99% of the decent folks here that want and hope for you to succeed.  Please count me as one of them.
By posting here you open yourself up to criticism, but you also open yourself up to many folks that are experts in various fields and will share information in a constructive manner.  Most of us here on on your side.  Ignore the rest.  They will get bored eventually and go away.

Bill
;D
You should continue to make fun with the 'ole Lawrence... That's the thing you do best.
"Ex nihilo nihil"