Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[hartiberlin]

Here is the latest video from Linnard attached to this message,
but he did not state much,
what we really see here.
He just wrote:

Hi Stefan,

Thought you would like to see this one. 500 ml per min. out of a 80 ml reactor.

Linnard

I had another look in single step frame mode into this video
and it seems he just uses one big cylindrical electrode and
a smaller rod electrode there beneath the kork closing.
There is one probably copper rod or something simular
coming out in the center of the kork and another wire
goes at the outer edgeof the kork into the baker.
Beneath the kork there seems to be one white-silvery
bigger cylindrical electrode and a smaller rod in front of it,
when he zooms onto it...
So the 2 electrodes are pretty near each other.

The cable that comes from the side of the kork
which probably goes to the smaller rod electrode beneath the kork
is shorted out to the copper rod coming out of the kork
inside the center of the kork.

The left opening in the top in the video
is just only for collecting the gas and putting it into a hose.

It seems that he converts 350 MilliLiters of water per
minute to oxyhydrogen gas.
That is really an amazing oxyhydrogen gas generation !

@ResinRat, thanks for the update,
what real effect did the battery have ?
Did you also try to connect it 180 degrees reversed polarity ?
What did happen then ?

Many thanks.

[hartiberlin]

Hi everyone,

Just a thought. Looking at it from an equilibrium point of view, since it is a combination of chemical reactions, I wonder if increasing the concentrations of the components that favor the reduction of zinc might shift the equilibrium of the reaction back toward the zinc reduction side. This would balance the reaction and maybe avoid, or slow the depleting of the zinc electrode. This would probably slow the hydrogen production but it might still proceed at an acceptable level.

I'm just brainstorming. Somebody give me your thoughts.

Thanks for your interest.

Yes, this might work,
I guess it is a very balancing act of tuning the concentrations
of the colloidal metals in the cell.

[ResinRat2]

Hi Stefan,

Just got on a minute or so ago.

After I found the reaction had stopped I connected the positive side of the battery to the zinc electrode and the negative side to the tungsten. Nothing happened. Reversing the polarity caused the zinc electrode to begin vigorously releasing gas. This was the oxygen mentioned in the patent. The zinc began to replate on the electrode. After three hours the reaction slowed and after disconnecting the battery the hydrogen started to be produced again.

Sorry I failed you as a chemist Dingus. I guess I've been cooking polymers too long and have gotten rusty (lol). Seriously, I think I need to look more closely at each reaction in this cell and perhaps try adjusting the concentration of the colloids or perhaps even the difference in the surface area of the electrodes to try and push the equilibrium of the cell toward the replating of the zinc. I was extremely busy today with other work and have not had the time or energy to really study this matter in more detail. The patent is very detailed, and I am sure the answer is in the reactions that make up the total cell.

Maybe even the idea of using two cells with opposite oxidation-reduction states of the zinc tied together could power each other, and produce hydrogen or oxygen the whole time.

Thanks for your time. I can only do my best.

[Dingus Mungus]

It seems that he converts 350 MilliLiters of water per
minute to oxyhydrogen gas.
That is really an amazing oxyhydrogen gas generation !

I have been thinking the same thing: at the rate of 350ml per minute, thats a gallon of water electrolyzed every 11 minutes if a cells lifetime can reach 100 hours like the experiment 13 suggests that cell could break down 550 gallons per lifetime. That is quite a lot of fuel and energy being produced... Even if there must be a sacrificial anode the exchange of (Zn2 + 2(H2O) ---> Zn(OH)2 + H2) is still a pretty good deal, but we must figure out this water fuel only nonreduction cell.

[Dingus Mungus]

Sorry I failed you as a chemist Dingus. I guess I've been cooking polymers too long and have gotten rusty (lol).

Seriously, I think I need to look more closely at each reaction in this cell and perhaps try adjusting the concentration of the colloids or perhaps even the difference in the surface area of the electrodes to try and push the equilibrium of the cell toward the replating of the zinc. I was extremely busy today with other work and have not had the time or energy to really study this matter in more detail. The patent is very detailed, and I am sure the answer is in the reactions that make up the total cell.

Resin Rat for shame, never think that! you're in R&D! Failure is better then nothing, and the more failures we have, the closer we come to a solution! About your suggestion of changing the ratios of the electrolyte, I would deffinitely suggest upping the silver levels as they have the highest electronegativity of all the metals involved. Also I believe this may be a light sensitive cell, colloidal silver is apartently very reactant to light.