Linnard?s hydrogen on demand system without electricity !

[Dingus Mungus]

Awesome glass ware! 

Thanks for the gas rate example! What size anode and cathode?

I've been playing catch up since the hollidays, but I plan to stock up on components soon for a another experiment. Thanks for the great update!

~Dingus

[ResinRat2]

Hi Dingus,

The anode is a 3/8" X 6" zinc rod that I purchased from boatzincs.com and the cathode is comprised of nineteen 1/8" X 7"- 2% Thoriated Tungsten electrodes wrapped together and tightly bound. These I purchased from a welding supply store nearby. I wanted to get as much surface area as I could with the cathode to boost the hydrogen production. The NaOH solution immerses the anode and cathode with a depth of 5" from the bottom of the glass apparatus. The total liquid volume is approximately 300 ml.

I will be working to add the hydrogen cell as soon as my wife picks it up from my mailbox. That should be tonight. I'm not sure how I will put it all together yet but it should be fun.

Thanks Stefan and Chris for the kind words. I really hope what I am doing can help others in getting this technology developed and spread.

Thanks everyone for your interest.

[ResinRat2]

Hi Everyone,

I have some pictures of the fuel cell so you can see what it looks like. I just need to read the instructions and see how I can hook these two together.

Fuel Cell Specs: (Fuel Cell Eco H₂/Air)
80x80x48 mm
180 g. Weight - 16cm² electrode area
300mW Power
0.4-0.96V Generated voltage.

Thanks for your interest.

[nickle989]

Very interesting read from the first post to the last one .. it took me a few days.

A few points/observations

KOH or NaOH when in contact will give off Hydroxy at an uncontroled rate.  I know as I use KOH in my setup for just plain electrolysis. Powered draino has Al flakes in it, you can take liquid plumber and cover an Al pop can and watch what happens massive amounts of hydrogen and oxygen but no way of controling it.

The reason why you get more Hydrogen/Oxygen when you apply a battery/voltage accross the anode and cathode is you are causing brute force electrolysis.

To get the voltage up in the cell to 12volts build a cell like you would a battery +-+-+-+- etc using each anode/cathode as 1.2 / 1.5 volts.

A NiMah battery needs to have a certain frequency/regulator tied to the circuit to charge it ... I would use a simple lead acid battery .. ie. emergency light pack or from a ups.

I would almost place the zinc plate on the bottom maybe ontop of a piece of stainless steel mesh and tie the connection to the SS mesh.  That way when the zinc oxidizes it will just fall to the plate at the bottom .. or maybe do not let the zinc anode deplete completely or maybe both.

The switching circuit is an awesome idea and there should be no reason for it not to work.  One could almost use a load on the circuit ie. a led light or something and the switching circuit to charge a different battery using diodes for the one way or something along that way .. switch the led on off at a high rate the eye won't tell.

I think when you have the copper rod in the solution it will probably plate itself with the silver and zinc together.

The chemecal equalibrium can certainly be achieved using experiment#13 ... I will be trying it this weekend .. though only thing I need to find is some coloidal silver and magnisium ... I hope one of these health stores will have it.

[Dingus Mungus]

Thanks for the specifics of your electrodes. Do you have a way of weighting your anode? Perhaps the scale you're using to measure your NaOH. Showing the mass lost over gas produced could even further prove its overunity status.

I will be working to add the hydrogen cell as soon as my wife picks it up from my mailbox. That should be tonight. I'm not sure how I will put it all together yet but it should be fun.

Be careful to seperate your hydrogen and prefill its connection hose with hydrogen before connecting it to the PEM's H2 input. Are you planning on storing power from the PEM in cap bank for a reduction cycle or using it to power a load of some sort? I've been eyeing those PEM model car kits since Christmas. First I plan on doing more material research with my next order. Lots of stainless steel and WC rods and a adjustable DC power supply Mramos pointed me twards.

With the data from your last experiment and some of my results its obvious to me that a long term H2 on demand device that uses infrequent reduction cycles is possible. I believe that using a third electrode composed of stainless steel grade 316 as the anode of the reduction cycle will prevent the deterioration of the tungsten electrode and contanimation of the cell. I'm ordering pure components this week. I think we're close to building the "Over unity cell" we've all been discussing these last few months.

Good luck with the PEM experiments! I can't wait to hear if you can pull max wattage out of it.

~Dingus