Towards Realizing the TPU

[Room3327]

Continuing these thoughts, with the use of soft steel for a core you can't run it any higher then about 500 Hz max. which would be 500x60 or 30,000 RPM.  If as I suspect SM went to ferrite cores, something Tesla did not have in his day, then this could be operated at much higher frequencies.  5KHz input would now be equivalent to 300,000 RPM, I would think a lot of power could be generated, just think of spinning a normal generator at 300,000 RPM.
   And keep in mind here, there is nothing moving except the magnetic field!

[forest]

Continuing these thoughts, with the use of soft steel for a core you can't run it any higher then about 500 Hz max. which would be 500x60 or 30,000 RPM.  If as I suspect SM went to ferrite cores, something Tesla did not have in his day, then this could be operated at much higher frequencies.  5KHz input would now be equivalent to 300,000 RPM, I would think a lot of power could be generated, just think of spinning a normal generator at 300,000 RPM.
   And keep in mind here, there is nothing moving except the magnetic field!

I agree with you. However using electronic circuit for driving such coil might be problematic.Better is to use positive feedback with negative regulator to set device rotating magnetic field exactly at required power output for connected load.That means a tiny load (resistance?) connected continuously to sustain rotation of magnetic field ?

[Room3327]

Forest,

        I agree that in the real world you would want to use feedback for control of the input, so you only use as much input as is required for the output you need.  But I disagree about using an electronic circuit for driving it.  Electronically creating a 2 Phase sine wave drive 90 degrees out of phase is pretty easy today.  This would give easy control of operating frequency's and other parameters and is easily amenable to feedback control. You could use frequency control to increase or decrease output. It would also be cheaper and easier to build then a Tesla exciter.

P.S. Don't forget SM used electronic control of his devices.

[forest]

Forest,

        I agree that in the real world you would want to use feedback for control of the input, so you only use as much input as is required for the output you need.  But I disagree about using an electronic circuit for driving it.  Electronically creating a 2 Phase sine wave drive 90 degrees out of phase is pretty easy today.  This would give easy control of operating frequency's and other parameters and is easily amenable to feedback control. You could use frequency control to increase or decrease output. It would also be cheaper and easier to build then a Tesla exciter.

P.S. Don't forget SM used electronic control of his devices.

Yes,but don't forget what SM told us about using electronic and why we should experimenting with vacuum tubes . Anyway I think that it's perfectly realizable without electronics. Look at perepiteia.

[turbo]

Also, for the TPU, would any ferro core be required?  Would it not be simpler, if a true
90 degree operation is desired, to simply simulate one with the outer coil having a DC
bias, establishing containment and allowing greater inner field density?   That would
certainly eliminate the saturation that would have happened at the high load.....

Steven already said this is not about induction.
If you needed a place for particles to freely float around, like in a particle accelerator, would you put a core in there??
I for one would not.

As for this thread, if the author was given the real operating priciple, he would dismiss it and continue to build yet another theoretical thread with another shitload of poyntless data and all the guy's will add their thought's to it, but there will be no end to it, it has happend before.
No realizing the TPU.

Marco.