The Road to Perpetual Motion

[Marctwo]

@Hans:  The wheel takes energy from the ball.  The greater the wheel mass, the more energy it will take as your first experiment shows.

If you make the wheel very heavy then it will store most of the energy.  You could drop the first ball without losing much energy, pick up a second ball and lift it quite high.

If you make the wheel as light as possible then the ball will store the energy.  If you drop the first ball with all the energy, the wheel couldn't even pick up a second ball never mind raise it.

[hansvonlieven]

No,

The second, lighter wheel stores the energy just the same, you can see it in the vastly increased velocity.

Hans von Lieven

[Marctwo]

@Hans:  Velocity without mass is not worth much energy.

[hansvonlieven]

The steel ball weighs in at 6.28kg, it spins an 8kg wheel at a good velocity, hardly not worth much energy.

Hans von Lieven

[Marctwo]

@Hans:  Simple denial will not change the physical world for you.  Take some time to digest the information at your disposal before rushing into premature conclusions.