The Road to Perpetual Motion

[WilbyInebriated]

awful quiet in here, must be the sound of progress   

listen to what spinner, marctwo, kator, etc. are saying, give up this "pissmobile" you are working on. listen to pirate and save yourself from going down this dead end street.

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[hansvonlieven]

G'day Spinner and all,

Let me say first of all that I like your reply to my propositions, it is well reasoned and eloquently put. This is the kind of response I was hoping for when I wrote my original paper.

I agree with you that my simulations are not as convincing as they could be. I am now working on a better experimental setup to prove my theorem. The limitations of WM2D are such that the programme is just about useless for a more convincing demo.

If my theories are correct and if there is a discrepancy between input and output energy this discrepancy should grow with increased speed.

Gravity as input energy is obviously out of the question as the maximum speed I can reach is limited by the laws that govern free fall.

To set up a proper experiment the wheel would need to rotate at about between 10,000 and 20,000 rpm. At these kind of velocities the CF is enormous and if there is any detrimental effect on the wheel this should show up dramatically.

I have a tentative design at the moment but I need to come up with a less complex approach since the building of that particular device is beyond my resources.

I am working on this right now and I shall keep you informed of any progress or failure as the case may be.

Unfortunately there are only 24 hours in a day and available time is limited.

Thanks for your input.

Hans von Lieven

[Marctwo]

Hans, why is it that you came to think that this extra energy is being produced in the first place?

Are you perhaps just overlooking the relative differences in the various reference frames used to describe these 'forces'?

[hansvonlieven]

G'day Mark,

One of the reasons is that I have worked with centrifugal casting machines that use centrifugal clamping devices to clamp the molds. There are huge pressures that these clamps generate without using any extra power.

Just one application

Hans von Lieven

[ashtweth_nihilisti]

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