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The Road to Perpetual Motion

Started by hansvonlieven, September 12, 2008, 02:32:15 PM

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hansvonlieven

@ Martwo,

Bill is right. Any designs that you may come across in this thread are only possible applications of my ideas. The main thrust of the thread is to lay a scientific basis to perpetual motion as such.

The idea of perpetual motion has been discredited by science for a very long time.

What I am trying to show is that perpetual motion is possible within the framework of contemporary scientific thinking and accepted laws of physics. No re-writing of Newton's laws or of Conservation of Energy laws is required. All the prerequisites are already there and known to science. These posts of mine are not for casual reading. They have to be studied to be understood. I am trying to put the subject matter in as plain a language as I can so most people can understand what I am talking about. Only time will tell if I can succeed in this.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Marctwo

Well, with ~40 posts specifically geared toward the Keenie device, I'm probably not the only one who got the wrong idea of what this thread was about.

Still, if you say this thread isn't about the Keenie device then I guess I should leave you to get it back on topic...

hansvonlieven

When I first struck the Pop Keenie's device I said very clearly that I saw in it the principle of perpetual motion that up to that time had escaped me.

Using his device as a model I began formulating what these principles are. If we want to build a gravity wheel we must understand how it may operate. 300 years of wild experimentation have brought no-one closer to re-creating what Bessler and Pop Keenie did.

Bessler said that his wheel does not violate any laws of physics. The corollary to this is that Bessler's system can be understood by anyone versed in traditional physics. This is what I am trying to do, nothing more.

Hopefully by the time I am finished many of you will be building wheels of various designs that work. I believe I know WHAT Bessler and Pop Keeny did, I do not know HOW they did it as there are any number of engineering solutions once the operating principles are understood.

This is a project under development. It leads to wherever it leads to as new insights come to hand and what you started off with is not necessarily what you have at the end. Such is the nature of the beast.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

ChileanOne

Dear Hans:

I am following with utmost interest this thread. As I am a "Steorn junkie" I wanted to ask if you visualize your current line of exploration of the perpetual motion to be valid or extrapolable to magnetic fields.

I think you are on the right trail, and I wanted to thank you for your efforts on sharing it with the world.

My Best Regards!

hansvonlieven

G'day ChileanOne,

Yes, I believe what I am working on has repercussions right across the spectrum. When I have concluded my current set of experiments I will turn my attention to magnetism and see if and how it might apply there. Thanks for your interest.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx