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Rough idea for gravity powered perpetual motion device

Started by cyclopz, September 12, 2008, 11:59:41 PM

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Nabo00o

Quote from: cyclopz on September 14, 2008, 02:44:24 AM
Thanks for the suggestion... I am going to rethink my designs and try to make them better.
The problem that everyone will face when they want to create a selfrunning gravitymachine is that the energy that comes from gravity allways be less than the energy needed to overcome it, because of friction. If you wan't to make it work you'll have to find a way to overcome the gravitational resistance, normally people try to do this by using centripetal forces ( the same kind you get when when the clothes in your  washing machine gets pulled away from the center).
If you in some way manage to use that force to pull up those marbels you can in fact create a selfrunning gravity machine. It isn't easy though ;)
Static energy...
Dynamic energy...
Two forms of the same.

soliris

Naboo, you just give the definition of centrifugal forces, not centripetal forces. A centripetal force leads an element towards the centre, from outside ..

Nabo00o

Quote from: soliris on September 14, 2008, 10:30:17 AM
Naboo, you just give the definition of centrifugal forces, not centripetal forces. A centripetal force leads an element towards the centre, from outside ..
Oh sorry, I must have mistaken the two...
Btw, is there some kind of motion that will create a centripetal force? Like an anti-rotation like movment (whatever that is....)
Static energy...
Dynamic energy...
Two forms of the same.

hansvonlieven

G'day all,

@ Naboo,

You are correct. In physics there is no such thing as centrifugal force. What we call centrifugal force is the equal and opposite reaction to centripetal force.

Hans von Lieven
When all is said and done, more is said than done.     Groucho Marx

Nabo00o

Quote from: hansvonlieven on September 14, 2008, 01:13:19 PM
G'day all,

@ Naboo,

You are correct. In physics there is no such thing as centrifugal force. What we call centrifugal force is the equal and opposite reaction to centripetal force.

Hans von Lieven

Okey, so that's the correct term on that effect. But do you know if there is some visable effect of the centripetal force then, and not its opposite.
Oh, mabye thats the force that keeps the pendulum or unbalanced wheel from moving, the axis that it rotates on....
Static energy...
Dynamic energy...
Two forms of the same.