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Overunity Machines Forum



I'm skeptical of these motors...

Started by mike3, September 18, 2008, 05:58:25 PM

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mike3

Quote from: Hoppy on October 01, 2008, 07:19:52 AM
As citfta points out, its just for learning and enjoyment purposes. Its not a magic machine, just simple EE stuff, an electro-mechanical oscillator which can rejuvenate and re-charge sulfated batteries.  The same thing can be done a lot simpler with solid state but the spinning wheel looks nice and can make an attractive feature in the garden or novel fan for the house (matter of opinion of course). If some of the coil discharge is fed back (back-popped) to the primary, the power requirements are low, so a small PV panel can be used to run it as a garden feature (COP infinity!).

So what happens if you want actual free energy, or to figure out whether or not real "free energy" is possible? (As you said it was "under unity" so it does not yield any "free energy".)

Quote from: Hoppy on October 01, 2008, 07:19:52 AM
The real McCoy if it exists is the property of John Bedini and he is understandably not going to reveal this and jeopardise his commercial interests.

Hoppy

And that sucks, you know. (I.e. I do not agree with the practice.) If one has a free energy device one should give it up to the world, forget about profit and give out the device to help the peoples of the world, to bring cheap energy to those people who need it most in the poor regions of our globe, and so on. But alas greed gets in the way and the commercial interests unfortunately take to the fore.

Furthermore does this mean that he will never release it ever, at all, and so if it does work the invention will be lost forever? Gosh, no wonder I hate prioritizing "commercial interests". What if it does work?

WilbyInebriated

Quote from: mike3 on October 01, 2008, 08:12:50 PM
So what happens if you want actual free energy, or to figure out whether or not real "free energy" is possible? (As you said it was "under unity" so it does not yield any "free energy".)
well, you gotta get off your collective surplus and start trying to replicate...

Quote from: mike3 on October 01, 2008, 08:12:50 PM
And that sucks, you know. (I.e. I do not agree with the practice.) If one has a free energy device one should give it up to the world, forget about profit and give out the device to help the peoples of the world, to bring cheap energy to those people who need it most in the poor regions of our globe, and so on. But alas greed gets in the way and the commercial interests unfortunately take to the fore.

Furthermore does this mean that he will never release it ever, at all, and so if it does work the invention will be lost forever? Gosh, no wonder I hate prioritizing "commercial interests". What if it does work?
oh yes the usual "these damn greedy bastards"... how boring. if you're so altruistic why aren't you building and showing? how much of your paycheck did you give to "the poor peoples of the world" last pay period? can't bring yourself to forget about your profit margin either can you? yeah, greed does get in the way doesn't it?
what if it does work? i doubt you will know, you will probably be here whining about greed and wondering why no one has delivered your silver platter to you...
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

Goat

@ mike3

I understand your frustration and your skepticism if you have actually built and experimented with the Bedini "Energizers" as I have for the last few years.

The OU is not in the energizer but in the charged batteries so you can't make it self run without batteries, apparently replacing the batteries with caps don't work on some of these circuits, although I've seen one on Utube  ::)

I've seen plenty of anomalous effects on my setups but OU still eludes me...there's tons of info on these setups but I'm just not hitting it lucky yet I guess.... :P

Is there anyone out there that can run a charged battery as OU with accurate measurments or better yet their house on this tech?  After looking at some of Bedini's videos I still don't see how he could run his shop on his best of the best setups, of course I could be wrong (as usual)  :-\

Regards,
Paul


utilitarian

Quote from: WilbyInebriated on October 01, 2008, 09:30:16 PM
well, you gotta get off your collective surplus and start trying to replicate...
oh yes the usual "these damn greedy bastards"... how boring. if you're so altruistic why aren't you building and showing? how much of your paycheck did you give to "the poor peoples of the world" last pay period? can't bring yourself to forget about your profit margin either can you? yeah, greed does get in the way doesn't it?
what if it does work? i doubt you will know, you will probably be here whining about greed and wondering why no one has delivered your silver platter to you...

Yes, so Bedini is getting rich off sitting on a free energy invention his entire life, out of fear someone may steal it or otherwise "compromise his commercial interests".  What commercial interests?  There are no commercial interests if nothing is being sold!  This is some genius profit scheme:

1.  Invent an overunity device which is potentially worth billions
2.  Never disclose it
3.  Die poor

If Bedini was just a little smarter, maybe he would at least start selling a little energy so he could make a some money he could enjoy right now before he gets too old to enjoy it ever.

I think the obvious answer is that he does not have a free energy device and that is the end of that.

Goat

@ All

I didn't mean to discourage anyone from messing around with JB's circuits even though you may be skeptic such as I am (that's why I keep trying), as a matter of fact I've bought some of his spin offs such as the FEG book and video as well as the RC-2A12-2 to contribute to his research but as I mentioned I just haven't been lucky enough to show any gains from the circuits I've built so far or the charger, hopefully JB will step forward eventually and show us and not just tell us because so far no go on my end.

Wish everyone the best and hope you find enough of the elusive OU to run your house or your car  ;D

Regards,
Paul