RFI: Bedini, bearden, lindemann class action lawsuite

[z.monkey]

Howdy Zpfe,

Justice?  Hahhhahhahhahahhahhahhahaaaaahahahhaaaaaaaahahhahaaaaaaaaaa..........

So where is your schematic?  Do you have a picture of your circuit?  Any test data?

Blessed Be...

[hoptoad]

Ditto. The Bedini opened my eyes to the possibility of free energy. I chocked all this stuff up to conspiracy theories before I tried building his motor.

Chad

The energy gathered from the collapsing magnetic field of the coil is not "free energy", it is merely the energy stored by the magnetic field of the coil.

When you charge up a capacitor, it is storing energy as charge. and when you discharge it, you are only getting back what was stored. The same applies to an inductor. When you initially connect an inductor, the energy used to create the magnetic field is stored in that field. When you disconnect the inductor, the collapse of the magnetic field releases the stored energy.

Yes, you can charge a battery or run some other piece of circuitry with this stored energy, but you will never charge a battery at a greater (or even equal) amount of current than what the supply battery is providing.

The total mechanical torque of the motor plus the electrical energy of the output from the collapsing field, (and any additional separate pick up coils), when added together, is still less than the total electrical energy consumed by the motor.

This becomes very evident over the long term, when using two batteries of identical capacity. Use one for the circuit supply and one for charging. First discharge the battery that you are going to charge,  then use the other to charge it. Then reverse the batteries and do the same again. Repeat over and over. Eventually both batteries will go flat.

Bedini, Bearden and Lindemann try to tell the uneducated, that the energy from the collapsing field is "free" energy, when in fact it is only stored energy, which was put into the system in the first place by the supply battery.

I have, over the years, made over a hundred variations of the Bedini and Adam's motors, and whilst it was/is possible to make very efficient motors which recycle the energy stored in the driving coil, none exhibit any genuine O/U.

Cheers from Hoptoad

[chadj2]

I agree with you that it is the power stored in the inductor. But this stored energy is ordinarily wasted by clamping the motor coil to itself. I didnt know that that energy was of any use. I thought that it couldnt charge batteries since it was just a high voltage spike with very little current. Standard theory says that batteries only charge from actual electron flow and that voltage plays a very small part. In the case of the bedini motor the voltage seems to play the majority part and amperage a small part in the charging of the secondary batteries. I am not really going to quibble with bedini or those types as to whether it is "free energy" or not, but they initially opened up my eyes to bigger and beter things. I have since move quite a bit beyond those intro motors.

Chad

[wattsup]

@zpfe

If you want to head a class action suit on something useful, please consider a class action suit against the US Government for stealing or confiscating free energy devices, information, etc., etc., including designs of Mr. Tesla himself, all under the guise of "national security" crapola.

You should sue the MIB and company for being responsible for the total stagnation of the free energy effort.

Guys like Bearden would be lucky to pay for one months rent a year with all they sell. Geez, give me break already.

What about suing those fat CEO's who are robbing the public blind with their grandiose salaries, all the while running the economy into the ground.

Guys like Bearden have a million times the intellect of those fat bastards, with barely the means to get by yet they persevere in spreading their knowledge any way they can afford to.

So yeh, I can understand you are trying to look out for these great brains on this forum who are only looking to help mankind in their own ways, but I really think you are running after the wrong turkey.

[Nabo00o]

I buildt a SSG some time ago, first it didn't seem to work because I felt too much temptation to correct the unconventional side of it. But after a while of bugging the guys at the monopole 3 yahoo group I got it working. And allready, it does some very interesting things.
The first thing was that it could charge batteries which a specially designed pulse battery charger couldn't even spot, and much less restore.
Second and allmost more interesting is that it work opposite to a normal motor/generator, or any kind of mechanical machine.
When you load the electrical output the motor speeds up, when you load it mechanically its amperage draw drops, and increases as the motor gains speed. Its pretty wierd and could probably be used in large scales to do heavy work for low power.

Now something funny which I just seemed to think of, it kinda reminds me of the Milkowic technology.
Because its just the same with his devise. In the pendulum/hinge situation, which in my mind is two completely seperated systems, the efficiency or power in the pendulum is highest when the load or resistiance (which is load) on the hinge is at the most, and  at the lowest efficiency when no power is drawn out of the hinge, thereby making the hinge move back and fourth from the weight-change of the pendulum.

Okey, I just wanted to mention this because I see that they have this effect in common, reversing the normal parallell between power and resistance, which normaly is universial in every system which deals with energy.