Faraday's Paradox experiment

[onepower]

Nix85

Main point being, it is misleading to think that fluxlines between two attracting magnets are not affected by spinning of magnets.

from ChatGPT...

Question:
Are Faraday's lines of force real or conceptual

Answer:
Faraday's lines of force are a conceptual tool used to represent the behavior of electric and magnetic fields. They were introduced by the physicist Michael Faraday in the 19th century to aid in visualizing and understanding the properties of electric and magnetic fields.

The concept of lines of force helps to illustrate the direction and intensity of the electric and magnetic fields around charged particles or magnets. The lines are drawn such that the tangent to a line at any point gives the direction of the electric or magnetic field at that point. The density of the lines represents the strength or intensity of the field.

It's important to note that Faraday's lines of force are not physical entities in themselves. They do not represent tangible objects or actual physical lines in space. Instead, they are a visual representation that allows us to comprehend and analyze the behavior of electric and magnetic fields.

Which begs the question why 99% of people have no idea "lines of force" are in fact a form of notation and were never meant to be taken literally. It's similar to the concept of North and South poles which are also forms of notation. Often confused with negative and positive polarity which are also not real but notations.

Notation:
the act, process, method, or an instance of representing by a system or set of marks, signs, figures, or characters. b. : a system of characters, symbols, or abbreviated expressions used in an art or science or in mathematics or logic to express technical facts or quantities.

In fact the whole notion of lines of force came about because most people got lazy. A magnetic and electric field have a uniform gradient of strength following the inverse square law. Like an onion with an infinite number of layers each having a different field strength at every point. However back in Faraday's time they did calculations by hand and didn't have computers. So they averaged and lumped everything together, invented notations in effect dumbing everything down to a level they could understand.

As ChatGPT put it...

The concept of lines of force has been tremendously valuable in the field of electromagnetism and has provided significant insights into the nature of electric and magnetic interactions. However, it's essential to understand that they are a useful tool for visualization and understanding, rather than a physical reality.

So you are correct and it is misleading to think that flux lines between two attracting magnets are not affected by spinning of magnets because there is no such thing as flux lines.

AC

[nix85]

onepower You have not been following so you fall into traps of conventional bs.

from ChatGPT...

"It's important to note that Faraday's lines of force are not physical entities in themselves. They do not represent tangible objects or actual physical lines in space. Instead, they are a visual representation that allows us to comprehend and analyze the behavior of electric and magnetic fields."

Wrong. Just like convention is wrong about countless things so are they wrong about this. Nothing is "physical", all is vibration, but actual individual lines of force do exist.

Which begs the question why 99% of people have no idea "lines of force" are in fact a form of notation and were never meant to be taken literally.

Ironically, it is exactly you who has no idea lines of force do actually exists, they are not just "lumped conceptualisation". It matters not the least what useless, false, mainstream narrative says, they can't agree on anything anyway and contradict each other at every step. ALL their theories are wrong and ALL will be replaced. From classical mechanics to string theory and ALL in-between.

I have written countless times already that all is ultimately composed of universal currents which are themselves carrying etheric particles which are themselves ultimately made of vibration of Spirit. I explained exactly how time-space is created by bucking principle aka two sets of vibration 180° out of phase, how this neutralized field of vibration has been given structure with 6 axis of time which are relative to each other (nearby axis having 1:2 apparent speed ratio and consequently a 60° angle...) and so on infinitely. And that time which is the prime mover oscillates in place and matter of matter and antimatter universes captures vibrations of one polarity only. And local positive radiation from the sun and manifestation of gravity light and heat in atmosphere and the reflected opposite closing the circuit (male dropping down, female returning it up)....... But it of course all flew over your head.

Anyway, you don't have to understand these things, just use your intelligence. Realize that all this is created from literally nothing by vibration/sound.

Realize that for nothing to become something there had to be created a network of points of awareness which allows this imaginary field to exist. Realize this field has underlying structure. As i already explained underlying structure is vibrating spirit and it follows certain geometry.

As explained in sources below 2 of which are contactee and 1 Earth's astral...time-space is is a network of lines of em force, on the smallest scale we can see time-space itself is made of alternating polarities +-+-+-+-...... to infinity in all directions. So that already shows that there is no continuous field, there are "pixels" in a sense (altho limits are arbitrary for all is Spirit, and there is no theoretical limit to subdivision). In this field of alternating polarities, as i said before, flow certain currents carrying tiny "particles", little "bubbles of nothing" which actually do not have polarity in themselves, but attain it only in more complex aggregations, becoming male and female. As i said countless times before including few paragraphs above, these male etheric particles channel energy from higher plane toward the lower and female return it closing the circuit. But before etheric substance returns to higher plane(s) it makes wide circles on each level, these subtle streams are what is termed primary energy flows or universal currents, rivers of energy flowing out from galactic hubs into suns, from suns into planets and so on. It is all one cascading river of Force. And Force in all its manifestations forms lines, be it gravitational, magnetic or electric. And lines are tiny rivers in which etheric substance flows.

It's similar to the concept of North and South poles which are also forms of notation. Often confused with negative and positive polarity which are also not real but notations.

Also wrong. Just like coil can be wound CW or CCW, and no matter if you turn the coil 180° it is still the same (try it), so do energies differ depending on the pole from which they emerge. We know in case of Earth south geographical pole which has been termed magnetic north pole is the negative one, while north geographical which has been termed magnetic south pole is the positive one. They have opposite characteristics just like heat and cold, compression and expansion etc.

So you are correct and it is misleading to think that flux lines between two attracting magnets are not affected by spinning of magnets because there is no such thing as flux lines.

AC

Wrong. You will learn in time that there are actual lines of force and it is absurd to think otherwise for above noted reasons.

Now it's up to you if you will foolishly believe the paradigm that is literally falling apart, which is actually already dead for a long time, and has rotten away, but some not exactly sincere individuals keep it artificially "alive"......or will you use your intelligence and listen to those who are coming from other planets in interdimensional spacecraft, who have correct understanding of things.

Quote from A Spacewoman Speaks

"The "electro-magnetic" drive obtains its power by cutting the natural lines of force of a planet. The action is much the same as that of your electrical generators. The craft are oriented on the magnetic meridians in such a manner that a small electron beam will drive them. They can cross the meridians, or travel at an angle to them, in a manner similar to that used by your sailboats when "tacking into the wind." This form of drive can obviously be used only over some planetary body, but this body does not necessarily have to be on your vibrational level.

"Primary drive" is the only true space drive, aside from teleportation. It consists of mechanism, which will place the craft into synchronous frequency with the primary energy flows which permeate all the Universe, but slightly out of phase with them. The speed is theoretically unlimited with the speed of sound. In actual practice the maximum speed when using "primary drive" depends largely upon the skill of the operator in controlling the craft, and upon the degree of phase angle which can be applied, and that depends on the amount of "shading power" which the craft can supply."

Lines of force are mentioned in every major and true contactee case, from Zirbes, Koldas to Adamski, no point in quoting them all. Zirbes goes into great detail and how breaking of individual fluxlines releases its content which is bubbles of nothing, carriers of what you call "gravity". He also explains (which is also confirmed in Koldas case) that substance in magnetic fluxlines around Earth travels in sync, so those that are farther away travel faster and they exceed C, when they exceed C significantly they rupture and release bubbles of nothing the size of Earth into space. Adamski also spoke of these magnetic bubbles etc. In Koldas case is explained how magnetic fields connect all the planets and solar systems and galaxies expelled outward by the solar winds, and how these magnetic tunnels are used for travel and how flux lines in outer layers of the field exceed C and how ships use this to accelerate beyond C, dematerialize and rematerialize in a distant spot. Etc infinitely.

In short, there are definitely fluxlines.

[onepower]

Nix85
Your post sounds very familiar, so to recap...
-Everyone is wrong about everything except you, your right.
-there is no such thing as matter or energy only vibrations.
-transition from real science to false beliefs and wishful thinking.

It's cool however I think most understand that in the real world where we need to explain and demonstrate our theories yours doesn't hold water. Where I offered a few easy experiments anyone can do to prove why a field doesn't rotate with a simple scientific explanation.

Here is another real experiment my son did for a science project in grade 8 proving there are no such thing as lines of force and it's just a simple misunderstanding. It was cool because his teachers had a melt down, lol.

We all know about the circular pattern of lines made by iron filings around a magnet. In fact, we can use iron powder, filings, small or large pieces of iron wire. This pattern of lines was the main reason Faraday and many others came to the wrong conclusions. You see any time we have small objects which can be influenced by a magnetic or electric field they form lines. The process is called magnetic and electric field induction.

In effect the field induces an opposite polarity across the objects causing them to attract in series (unlike poles attract) and repel when parallel (like poles repel). So of course the filings tend to attract end to end and repel side to side forming lines. They do not show magical lines of force which is completely absurd. It is simply an effect of field induction so simple even a child could understand it.

So how is it I had to explain this to my son's science teachers and all the other adults in the room?. I assume they all went to school so how could they have no idea what field induction is or how it works?. I think it's because they were never taught the basics, first principals or critical thinking.

AC

[nix85]

onepower
Your posts sound familiar as well, again fully of adhominems and misconceptions.
- I never said or implied everyone is wrong about everything except me (and sarcasm does not help you either.). Like half of things i share is 100% conventional, and other half is the higher, some call esoteric/occult, which is a misnomer for we are talking not something abstract or fairytaleish but Higher Science that has been happening in parallel with so called "science". Great ones like Keely, Rota, Hollingshead etc, nothing new about any of this, Earth has seen countless civilizations rise to immense heights (to a point of antigravity and overunity being openly, widely used, to a point of opening portals etc) and fall back into barbarianism
-there is no such thing as matter or energy only vibrations indeed.
-transition from real science to false beliefs and wishful thinking is all yours.

Let's make it absolutely clear, you did not provide a single experiment that proves there are no fluxlines, there are however many experiments that show you are wrong and in addition to that, ALL, i repeat, ALL advanced sources underlined, say clearly there are fluxlines, and it is absurd to deny it for reasons i already clearly noted.

I have been saying for years fields are a property of the space and that there is really only one field, One Force, One Substance, that fields are a property of the surrounding space is basically the only thing you got right but even there you got the causality order wrong. What you call "source" - be it a charge like an electron or a particle of "matter" is there because the field FIRST created it, for anything to exist on this plane there first must exist the pattern of subtler order, astral in this case, that is CLOTHED in matter. Also, in attached text above from The Magic Bag where is clearly explained how 4 LINES of energy CROSS to create what is called an electron which (as also clearly stated) emits countless yet smaller "negative electrons" (calling the big electron positive). And in Tassel's attached text above it is explained how three LINES of energy (electric, magnetic and G-axis) cross to create an atom of hydrogen... we see creation of "particles" is based on PRINCIPLE OF LINE CROSSING (btw this was recreated), Tassel also shares that these lines contain substance flowing throu them, male (electric) and female (magnetic) substance which mate to produce a particle. I explained all this countless times but you hold to your false models refusing to accept Higher Knowledge. I have been gifted with Sight so i can recognize and correlate these Higher Sources. So listen and learn.

So to take out, everything that is manifested is first created on higher plane and then "clothed" in substance of a lower plane, THERE IS NO CREATION ON THIS PLANE, never was and never will be, ALL that is happening is CLOTHING of ideas in substance, no more no less. Second, equality important point is that ALL "particles" are created by crossing of LINES of energy that "mate" their substances. No more no less.

Or to put it most succintly

ASTRAL IDEAS ARE CLOTHED IN SUBSTANCE OF THIS PLANE (LIKE SKELETON IN FLESH)
ALL PARTICLES ARE CREATED BY FIELD LINE CROSSING AND SUBSTANCE MATING

They are universal, timeless, unchanging, core principles.

Everything you write is full of misconceptions, starting from your first post

"Another clue, in many cases the Primary Fields cannot be shielded by other materials. The field appears to move through other materials as if they were not even there. This is because the field doesn't move through the material it exists in the space around it."

Fundamental field exists in all space inside and outside of the particle, it IS space itself, no matter how many times i explain this it flies over your head, space itself is an illusion created by TIME (6 axis and 1:2 harmonic ratio). Like i wrote before, electric, magnetic and gravitic are NOT Primary Fields, these are secondary effects of higher orders of energy which pass through everything unimpeded in most cases.

"Pure energy, in all its modifications, is absolutely unknown to man. What men call heat, gravitation, light, electricity, and magnetism are the grosser attributes attending alterations in an unknown, attenuated, highly developed force producer. They are results, not causes. The real force, an unreached energy, is now flooding all space, pervading all materials. Everywhere there exists an infinite sea of motion absolute."

They are stepped down aspects of One Force and they CAN be shielded, all 3, for first 2 that is well known altho in case of magnetic term redirected is preferred, gravity itself can be shielded with special materials and high voltage. When gravity field is shielded another local gravity field results unlike shielding of electric and magnetic fields which are lower expressions of gravity, for ALL is based on this cascading principle of One Force as i said countless times.

I wrote countless times most fundamental field is the forcefield of time-space itself which, as clearly stated and depicted above, consists of tiny alternating polarities +-+-+-+-+-+-.....  so it is a network of polarized energy and it fundamentally consists of LINES. And all lower force expressions are manifested on this "canvas", in this "water of creation" (and it is water-like) and follow this same pattern. Circular/spiraling lines of force flow on all levels.

So field passing through materials DOES pass through them, for that is another great principle ALL is based on, principle of superposition of waves, faster, smaller wavelengths cooexisting with slower, longer ones, without interference, in same manner as when you throw a big stone into water and bunch of tiny ones on top of it creating myriad of tiny ripples not one bit interferring with the bigger ones. In similar manner material object whose atomic speed has been accelerated can pass through other material objects as easily as through air. In fact right now other levels of reality cooexist with us on this very Earth, astral matter of which lower levels are very close to us vibration wise but distinct enough not to be visible or tangible to us MOST of the time (but not always - for when certain conditions are met astral matter can be made visible, one of the methods being use of ultrasound.......).

And your cork rising (in water) example is not good parallel for the subject matter. Far more correct parallel would be example of creating a whirl within the water by spin, assuming water had superfluid properties as ether does, whirl would continue to spin and that is your "particle", and as long as particle spins it exists and radiates outward, the moment it is "unwound" in dissolves back into ether from which it apparently emerged, for it never really existed but as an PATTERN, much like trail in the sand, reformed by the next coming wave, everchanging, yet the sand changes not.

In case all this sounds complex to someone, it can be simplified very shortly, there is an infinite time-space forcefield produced by bucking principle (2 sets of wide-band vibrations 180° out of phase), into this forcefields are BLOWN, i repeat, BLOWN, "bubbles of nothing", tiny voids in this superdense forcefield, and as they are blown into existence they are as well blown down certain paths, lines of force manifesting all forces and "matter" as they cascade from God all the way down the 7 great cosmic planes and inumberable sub-sub-sub planes all based on division of 7. Everything is made of these tiny bubbles, all spiritual, mental, astral and "physical" planes. It is all one and the same substance - literally. So i put "physical" in quotes for it is no more physical than is the highest spiritual plane right at the Source.

As for your claim that magnetic attraction and repulsion and appearance of fluxlines are "simply an effect of field induction" is of course wrong. If there were no lines of flux and it was just a field without fluxlines, then iron filings would not form into relatively thick lines, each atom of iron would repel those nearby and we would have a fine gradient, there would be no bands. Bands are a direct result and proof of fluxlines.

I already explained in previous post so a child could understand why it is absurd to deny there are flux lines. I have already shared all those occult and contactee sources that all agree there are fluxlines etc.

All in all, there are definitely fluxlines, tiny rivers/bands in which etheric substance flows, they are the fundamental property of TIME-space itself.

[alan]

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