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Gravity Mill - any comments to this idea?

Started by ooandioo, November 03, 2005, 06:13:20 AM

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tbird

stefan,

as long as you don't agree with the height issue, you are no use to this link.  either get with the program or leave.

tbird
It's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it!

ooandioo

Quote from: tbird on August 27, 2006, 12:15:44 PM
hi andi,

QuoteI still think, using a pipe for transporting water in the reservoir bassin or a sprinkling noozle will have the same results, as the pressure is also the same.

the advantage of the pipe is you can control where the water goes.  if you use leverage for recompression, it would be hard to spray it there accurately.  it's cheap too.

tbird

Thats what I'm saying.

ooandioo

Quote from: tbird on August 27, 2006, 12:19:34 PM
stefan,

as long as you don't agree with the height issue, you are no use to this link.  either get with the program or leave.

tbird

Please don't shout that way! We are still brainstorming - every idea and criticism is a good one.

hartiberlin

Quote from: prajna on August 27, 2006, 12:00:20 PM
Sorry Stefan, you are confused about this.  The large diameter pipe is below sea level and we do not need to consider the weight of water in that pipe we need only consider the weight of water in the small pipe that is above sealevel.  Whatever volume of water that is above the sealevel we must consider as being the weight of water that our shuttle must lift.

You even did the experiment to see this effect and the whole of our effort is based on the principle that we need only account for any water we lift above the water level.

I think the confusion for you arrises in that the pressure from the water in a column 1m high will exert the same pressure per area whether the area is large or small.  So a column of water 1cm by 1cm by 1m will exert a force of 1 kilo per cm2 and will weigh 1 kilo.  A column of water 10cm by 10cm by 1m will also exert a force of 1 kilo per cm2 but will weigh 10 kilos.  The boyancy required to lift the water in the second tube is 10 times that required to lift the water in the narower tube.

Hmm, you could be right, that I am confused because of the hydrostatic paradoxon,
but let me ask it this way:

If the shuttle is 1 Meter under water and has 100 Liter = 100 Kg still above it in the main pipe and
in the 1 Meter high exit pipe with much smaller diameter are 10 Liters= 10 Kg ,
so what does the shuttle see on its surface for a weight ?

is it just 110 Kg or is it 200 Kg ?

If it is 200 Kg, then we have the hydrostatic paradoxon at work.

Please let me know your view.
Thanks.


Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

hartiberlin

Sorry, I had a typo in my last post, I just corrected it,
I said: 100 Liter = 100 Kg in the main pipe and 10 kg= 10 Liter in the exit pipe.

Would the shuttle see 110 Kg or 200 Kg ontop of it ?
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum