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Hydrogen Peroxide Helicopter Intora Firebird

Started by khabe, October 21, 2008, 05:42:42 PM

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khabe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9S_Qmn-CEM
It is not OU but ineresting anyway ... and old principle of course  http://www.tecaeromex.com/ingles/RH-i.htm ... rocketman ... torpedos ...
At that its clean energy  ::)

Sad that Hydrogen Peroxide is so danger - extrahazardous  >:(

I did read about hot product Hydrogen Peroxide - very unclear for me ... my knowledge about chemistry is poor,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_peroxide
http://www.cheresources.com/h2o2.shtml
But then found out this:
Hydrogen peroxide production by water electrolysis: Application to disinfection
Hydrogen peroxide was produced by direct current electrolysis using only two electrodes, a carbon felt cathode and a RuO_2 coated titanium anode. The required oxygen was supplied by oxidation of water and by transfer from the atmosphere or by pure oxygen injection. The current was maintained below a maximum value to avoid peroxide reduction. A high peroxide production rate was reached and a 15 mg l^âˆ'1 concentration was maintained. The electrolysis removed turbidity and dissolved organic carbonaceous compounds from municipal sewage plant effluents. Real effluents were significantly disinfected owing to the direct effect of electric current and the indirect effect of peroxide. A residual effect was also observed.
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/klu/jach/2001/00000031/00000008/00320113

Unfortunately no more readings without money  :-\

yours faithfully,
khabe


Yucca

Nice vid khabe,

Here´s a similar design, uses turbine driven compressor to produce blade tip jets instead of h2o2. The video explains the benefits of tip jets very well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDOuoG6ljZA

Yucca.

khabe

Yucca, yes, also imressive idea.
Thanks for!


But about hydrogen peroxide
http://www.tecaeromex.com/ingles/peroxidoi.html
How they work?
***The hydrogen peroxide rocket engines are, in fact steam rockets, but this steam is produced by a violent exothermic reaction of the peroxide. When passed through a catalyst pack, the peroxide decomposes into superheated steam and oxygen. This high pressure steam is expelled supersonically through a DeLaval nozzle, which produces thrust. For each volume of liquid injected at the catalyst, after the reaction you get 5000 times that volume in gas expelled at the nozzle.***

And what he speaks more:

***I use it at 90% and I produce my own peroxide.***
***This product increase it´s stability with concentration. Yes!, the more pure and concentrated it is, the more stable!. 90% hydrogen peroxide must be stored in special 5254 aluminum alloy containers with vented caps in shaded ventilated rooms preferably but the product is safer to store than gasoline!
You must use approved containers for hydrogen peroxide service, this have a special vented cap.***


Im not planning to build rockets - not for me :-\  I like it just as fuel - *green neregy*

Of course its "green" only then when producing is "green" and low-cost.
http://www.tecaeromex.com/ingles/destilai.htm

Perhaps somebody understand better this procedure as Im able  - that was what about I tried to discuss - is it possible to produce SAFE & CHEAP  ::)

$22.43 / lb for 90% h2o2! - not very cheap at all :o or what ???

Best regards,
khabe







Yucca

That guy you link to also makes glass stills so you can make your own 90% h2o2 for $0.59 per lb:

http://www.tecaeromex.com/ingles/destilai.html

I´ll bet the still costs a small fortune though!

Yucca.

amigo

QuoteThe price of this distillation machine with the deionizing and purification process included is $15,800 USD. plus shipping to any part of the world.

Indeed... :)