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Overunity Machines Forum



Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1

Started by hartiberlin, October 23, 2008, 08:22:58 PM

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Goat

Hi Stefan

In the video responses skycollection mentioned to you that "here is iportant to see that lindermann circuit and my mechanical switching were important in this project"

Would it be possible to get skycollection to send us a schematic?

I also noticed that the coil core was not using any ferrite and seems to be empty. 

Is this a Lindermann or Bedini circuit?

Regards,
Paul

nievesoliveras

Hi!

Thanks everybody!
If it is a lindemann circuit, this is a lindemann circuit:

Jesus

Goat

 Hi nievesoliveras,

Thanks for the reply and the schematic of the lindemann attraction motor. 

If you look between 1:00 to 1:50 in the video, one can see that there's no Iron anywhere in the setup  :o not even inside the single wire coil.

This is why I asked Stefan the question of this setup being Bedini or Lindemann circuit cause in the video it's tagged as Lindemann.

I'd really like to see the circuit  ;D  Is it even a Bedini circuit  ???

Regards,
Paul

hoptoad

Quote from: nievesoliveras on October 27, 2008, 02:46:23 PM
Hi!

Thanks everybody!
If it is a lindemann circuit, this is a lindemann circuit:

Jesus
It never ceases to amaze me how something that's been around for nearly a century, and known as a variable reluctance motor, can be constructed by
someone (or represented in schematic form) and made to look as if it is their own new idea, by putting a different name on it (their own name for instance).

An X rotor - No back-emf - Big deal.

No back emf simply results in higher current usage at all levels of loading, from zero loading to rotor stall (overloading). The only advantage that a variable reluctance motor has over other motors is the relative level of mechanical torque available at both zero and full rpm. The torque available at high RPM only exists at the level it does because there is no back emf to reduce current consumption as is the case for example with a PM DC motor running at high RPM

Most of the very first reluctance motor designs comprised an X shaped rotor, with anything from 1 to N number of coils and attraction points.

Nothing new in Lindemanns circuit except maybe solid state switching, where the original century old variable reluctance motors used mechanical commutator switching.

Many so called inventors rely on the ignorance of the masses to push ideas which are not only plagiarised, but are also common knowledge to those who have an electrical background.

The diode return path to an external battery for charging (as shown in the circuit) is making use of the collapsing emf from the coils during the supply pulse turn off time. Also nothing new or startling about that. In fact the recycling of collapsing emf takes place in all well designed PWM motor controlling systems, but instead of charging another battery, the energy is usually looped back to the drive coil circuit to extend the drive pulse time and provide additonal mechanical torque.

Cheers

Groundloop

@Group,

I have looked at the video and I think his motor looks something like the attached drawing.
The mechanical switch uses carbon and copper. The switching action is done by gluing
a small Neo magnet to the switch. The switch reach can be adjusted with a bolt.

Groundloop.