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Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1

Started by hartiberlin, October 23, 2008, 08:22:58 PM

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myrmex

Quote from: Hybaj on October 24, 2008, 04:51:07 AM

Magnets have a limited lifetime... see? now make the connection.. no freaking overunity.. imagine magnets as fuel...little spark -> lots of energy due to fuel explosion .. overunity too? NO.. just energy released from the fuel thanks to the little spark... magnets = fuel ... period..

I've heard that a lot , do you have a study where they used a magnet until it died to prove that fact ?
I'm sure they will eventually loose their charge but how many days does it take there is surely some scientist that did experiment and can put a lifetime in days/month/year on that claim ....

myrmex

after searching a bit  i couldnt find a better link than this one but it still put some indication about a magnetic hip being able to last 1,000 year

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-510987/The-new-magnetic-hip-lifetime.html


if it is claimed a magnet can hold the weigth of a person for 1,000 year im pretty sure it can turn around for the same amount of time...

Pirate88179

Darn!  I guess solar energy is out then too as it is predicted that the sun will burn out in a few more million years so, I guess no free energy there either.

I am excited about this video although I agree with the folks that suggested in a nice way that better instrumentation be used for measurement of input and output before a final declaration is confirmed.  I too have been fascinated by the Bedini motors for a long time now and I hope this fellow has finally done it.  We will see.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

AbbaRue

I have been meaning to say this for a long time but was looking for the right time to do so.
I guess this is as good a time as any.

Over and over again we hear people say "close the loop" or "have it run it's self".
There are laws of physics that can prevent that from working. 
Conflicts with the laws of electronics.

Now here is what I have been meaning to say and it applies to all over unity devices:
Build 2 copies of the device that are as close to exact as possible.
Then use the output from device #1 to run device #2.  (Condition the output so it works)
If you have over unity device #2 must put out even more OU power then device #1 did.
This will remove any doubt that you have achieved Over Unity.
And also the laws of physics won't prevent you from using the output of #2 to run #1.
If #1 can run #2 then #2 has to be able to run #1, that is just plane logic.

Also building 2 copies will prove the other most important point;
That the effect can be duplicated.
So no more saying that something strange happened to the device and it doesn't work anymore.
Also as you build device #2 you can use device #1 as a reference to make sure you build it right.

I find it so strange that all those who claim to have build an OU device haven't thought of this simple solution.
I can understand if the device costs thousands of dollars and one just doesn't have the money to build a duplicate.
But every idea on this forum I have seen to date would cost less then $1000 to replicate for the one that build the first model.
Many can be replicated for less then $200.  So cost isn't a factor here.
The biggest cost is development of the concept into a working model because many test models are built.
But once you have a working model, then replication is very cheap.

And if you need even more proof, then build 3 or more of them and have the output of one running the other.
Eventually you should get so much Over Unity that no one will be able to question it again.

I hope all on this forum get to read this and give it some real thought, and stop saying "get the thing to run it's self"
That is the wrong approach!
"Get the thing to run a copy of itself!!!!"
That is the right approach.
I think the term is "decoupling" you must decouple the input from the output, and using 2 units will accomplish this.

I chose to place this here because the Bedini motor is a perfect candidate for this.
If you have a working OU version of it then building a copy of it is fairly cheap and easy to do.




carbonc_cc

AbbaRue--

Well, that or just have the thing flip-flop charging cap banks and run the motor off the flip-flopped banks.