Bedini motor with Avramenko plug OU COP = 1.1

[Hybaj]

OU  or not as long as this will have no other fuel source and will power my house/car in the near future
then fine by me.. 

Yes that's the spirit.. we all want this.. I especially hate the oil.. expensive and creates problems (wars&stuff.. I don't believe in global warming)

[Nostradamus2]

Did I ever say something about the actual length of the lifetime? Nope I sure didn't... limited = no overunity .. now if magnets had some kind of a free energy (which means tapping into some kind of a never ending source of energy) source in them now that would be overunity.... btw there are some great papers on the whole confusion of how much energy stored in magnets is and what has to happen for this energy to weaken

So calculate how many times you can remagnetize these magnets with energy created over 100 years period, the energy created is much much times more than stored in permenent magnets.

[ChileanOne]

Oh god people on a forum named overunity don't even have an idea of what overunity means...

okay so let's say all the calculations were done correctly (chuckles....) and that it really creates more output than "input".... when the magnets die then it will create less output than input = the term overunity is not properly used.

Magnets have a limited lifetime... see? now make the connection.. no freaking overunity.. imagine magnets as fuel...little spark -> lots of energy due to fuel explosion .. overunity too? NO.. just energy released from the fuel thanks to the little spark... magnets = fuel ... period..

Your comment shows that you really don't have much idea of how much energy does take to magnetize a material, nor what the duration of the magnetized material remaining magnetized is.

If you do it right, interaction of magnetic fields between magnetic materials can even lead to a streghtening of the magnetic properties of each piece of materials, and not a weakening.

Even if the magnetic material would become hipotetically demagnetized after a period of some years of use, OU can hold true as the integration of all power generated minus all power inputs still would yield a net positive overunity result. You can of course design interactions that quickly demagnetize a magnetic material, it all comes to the relation between the magnetizing force over a magnetic material field going out of certain boundaries, but within these boundaries, that are a property of each magnetic material, demagnetization does not occur.
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[Liberty]

Your comment shows that you really don't have much idea of how much energy does take to magnetize a material, nor what the duration of the magnetized material remaining magnetized is.

If you do it right, interaction of magnetic fields between magnetic materials can even lead to a streghtening of the magnetic properties of each piece of materials, and not a weakening.

Even if the magnetic material would become hipotetically demagnetized after a period of some years of use, OU can hold true as the integration of all power generated minus all power inputs still would yield a net positive overunity result. You can of course design interactions that quickly demagnetize a magnetic material, it all comes to the relation between the magnetizing force over a magnetic material field going out of certain boundaries, but within these boundaries, that are a property of each magnetic material, demagnetization does not occur.
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I agree, permanent magnets do not demagnetize.  In my opinion, magnets over time or by abuse become misaligned when the "pinning" material fails to hold the alignment of magnetic particles.  I think that the magnetic field is powered by a natural behavior within a magnet at the atomic level.  No energy is stored in a magnet when it is aligned or created.  The magnet is not "magnetized" when created.  If it was, you could store energy in a magnet like a battery, and we know that we can't charge, discharge or recharge magnets.  We can only realign them as long as the pinning material will hold the particles in place.

[carbonc_cc]

I was working on a newman motor, but after seeing this, I'm changing lanes.