Newman press conference

[hartiberlin]

Hi Prometheus,
many thanks for posting the link to this video.
The guy with the long hair and bartman looked to me like "Rucki"
a local Berlin, Germany based guy, who always comes to local
free energy meetings.
Maybe he was just in the USA and attended there.
Yes, he is a bit complicated and doesn?t understand all the things
at first, this might be, why he asked dumb questions and then
Newman got angry and throwed him out !

Had a really good laugh !
LOL !

Well anyway, the new motor looks interesting, if it can be
run with just 30 Volts.
I wonder how many milliamps are required to run the
motor.
ALso the sparking is pretty big for this size, so I think
the batteries will really be reacharged very well.
Due to my own experiments it depends on the sparks
and the commutator contact material how well the
batteries will be recharged by the RF bursts during the sparking.

For more info see my old pages at:


http://www.harti.com/newman
http://www.harti.com/newman2

Regards. Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

Hi All,
I have downloaded with ASFRecorder the video.
Unfortunately only the first part could be downloaded,
but it is also the most interesting part.
I have uploaded it now to:

http://www.harti.com/newman/newman_conference.wmv

Enjoy the part, when Newman throws out "Rucki" from the conference.

Normally Rucki is pretty kind, he always brings cookies with him to the
conferences, but maybe this time he did not understand, what he was hearing...



Regards. Stefan.

[fleebell]

I'm going to laugh myself right off my chair if that guy has him charged with assualt, and he even has video proof!
Lee B
www.leebell.net

[hartiberlin]

LOL, yes, if you would know "Rucki" you would piss your pants !

[erickrieg]

that press conference sounded like classic Newman.  He's threatend to punch me out as well.  It was funny to see aghast people in the audience.  I have info on eeven more strange newman behavior at
www.phact.org/e/skeptic/newman.htm

the following is some dialog from another list from people who were at the show:

> Cc:
> David Crockett Williams <gear2000@lightspeed.net>,
>  "Dr. Robert Park - American Physical Society - UMD
>  College Park Physics Department)",
>  Mark Avrum Gubrud
> 
>
> Subject:   
> Re: Mar.28 DC Newman press conference - "Otherwise" sounds like it
> went great
>
> Date:   
> Mar 29, 2005 4:05 PM
> 
>
> At 6:37 PM -0800 3/29/05, Thomas wrote:
> At 07:45 PM 3/28/2005, David Crockett Williams wrote:
>
> Thanks for this report Evan.  I will look for news coverage and
> their evaluations of the presentation.
>
> Uh, excuse me, David, Evan's representations, are -- like as are
> apparently the claims of the would be Jesus freak Newman -- a soup of
> snake oil
>
> Unfortunately perhaps (Mark Gubrud) did not have enough background on
> the Newman
> machine or theory to know the past history, so this update fixes a
> framework
> of comparison to past larger models and the refinements you describe
> below.
>
> Nonsense, David.  I sat around for half hour, maybe 45 minutes,
> listening to theories (referencing Faraday's laws, and such), which
> kinda might seem sort of impressive (know what I mean?  Michael
> Faraday, physics?  Wow, I'm impressed.  Well, not really.  After all,
> I've listened to a lot of snake oil salesmen), quite frankly, I wasn't
> favorably impressed, because there was nothing solid in the
> presentations ... just theory and some favorable press coverage.
> NOTHING of any substance.  Nonetheless, being the open minded
> son-of-a-bitch that I am, I figured I'd give this Newman fellow the
> benefit of the doubt.
>
> At some point after I got to this road show, I happened to notice that
> Mark showed up.  He was standing in the back of the room.
>
> Then here comes Mr. Newman, he was late too, with this oversized
> hatbox devise which he hooked up to a box of batteries, and it turned
> this little wheel with a couple of lights on it.  Jeeze, what do I
> know, maybe this was some kind of profound illustration of physical
> truth, shucks I couldn't see it, but at this point, I kept my mouth
> shut.
>
> In the meantime Mark came from the back of the room and took a seat in
> the first row (I was behind him in the second row.  By the
> way,contrary to the optimistic picture Evan painted, it didn't seem
> that Mr. Newmans Press Club charade was any kind of success, there
> were a whole lot of empty seats at this ground-breaking event, and. it
> seemed to me, that almost the entire audience were Newman groupies.
>
> Then, David wrote:
>
> In any case, my skeptical friend Thomas apparently is the referenced
> "heckler" - although from their phone conversation apparently it was
> Mark who asked the question when picked to do so, "how does your
> motor differ from other kinds of motors" (didn't do his homework, but
> still a reasonable question for some occasion) and they said that is
> what set Mr. Newman off on Mark, and that Thomas just rose to defend
> the apparent legitimacy of the question whereupon he was grabbed
> by the collar and physically harassed.
>
> Not quite.  This is REALLY the way it went down.  After Mark moved
> into the first row, and was looking at this Newman hatbox thing, Mark
> raised his hand and got called on (by the esteemed Mr. Newman
> himself).  First Mark asked whether he could look under the lid of Mr.
> Newman's hatbox thing.  At this point the great humanitarian,
> christian, saviour of the SUV class, explained that Mark couldn't look
> under the lid, because the hatbox thing-a-ma-jig wasn't properly
> patented (Peek under the lid -- potential threat to the savior's
> pocketbook.  Oh yeah, we'd just heard the genius go on at some length
> about how the Navy had already ripped off his amazing hatbox.) Then
> Mark asked the question about how this hatbox differed from other
> kinds of motors.  Then the Newman character asks Mark what he's doing
> there (Get it?  What's Mark doing at the Press Club for this public
> scam that Newman set up, publicized, and invited the public to
> attend.  Like, is this guy playing with a full deck, or what?)
>
> This is where the Heckler comes in.  When the Maestro asked Mark what
> he was doing at his public event, and who invited him, being the
> consummate P in the A, at that I am, I said, "One of your biggest
> fans, David Crockett Williams, invited him.  He's (Mark) a physicist
> and David said this would be an opportunity for Mark to examine your
> machine.
>
> It was at this point that the maniac flew off the handle, leapt off
> his podium, grabbed me by my sweater, and slung me against the wall. 
> Problem was, while this idiot is physically assaulting me, I was
> laughing so hard that, fortunately, I was unable to respond to his
> uncivilized behavior.  Perhaps my laughter disarmed the madman,
> whatever, at that point he seemed to lose his steam, and let go of my
> sweater.
>
> I do not think they had the intent to disrupt the news conference
> because I asked both of them to go and report on what they
> saw and invited Mark into a serious level scientific discussion
> about this machine due his sincere offer of his time to test it
> and support it to the scientific community if it passes his testing.
>
> You're right, David,we had absolutely no intention of disrupting his
> faux news conference. My point.is that this marvelous avatar of the
> alternative energy movement seems to be far more interested in selling
> books and making money than he is with illustrating the viability of
> his humorous hatbox.
>
> My apologies to Mr. Newman for this disturbance which was not
> my intent in asking Thomas and Mark to attend today.
>
> Whadda you apologizing to this wingnut for???  He should be
> apologizing to Mark and I.
>
> My apologies to Thomas and Mark for anything on my part that
> is behind this misunderstanding.
>
> Whadda apologizing to us for?  After all this Newman jerk invited the
> public to look at his scam.  If he can't deal with the heat he oughta
> get out of the kitchen.
>
> One view is that "well if Newman had something real, he would
> answer the questions satisfactorily".
>
> Sounds reasonable.  So we're left wondering:  Why is Newman so adverse
> to satisfactorily answering questions?
>
> But Joseph Newman has been through all this over and over
> and knows from people's tone of voices etc when he feels
> his truthfulness is being challenged blindly or due prejudice
> against this whole genre of "new energy techs".
>
> Poor guy, he's been through all this over and over.  Shit!  He
> deserves it.
>
> Look at it!  This nut case continuously talks in terms of his
> "opponents."  Mark and I obviously fell into this "opponent" category
> ... notwithstanding the fact that we weren't (at that point, anyway)
> "opponents," but were merely inquiring minds.  So what you got here,
> it seems to me, is a paranoid, schizophrenic, physically abusive, nut
> job named Joe.  Poooor guy.  People challenging his truthfulness,  oh
> my!  David, give me a break, anybody who doesn't question this guy's
> claims has got to be some kind of a sycophant, or just plain
> gullible.
>
> Personality problems has now today jumped to the top of my
> list of reasons why these new energy technologies are "not
> already out there".
>
> I humbly disagree.  I don't think it's so much personality problems as
> it is capitalistic, money grubbing, "Who invited you?", "opponent,"
> lying, paranoia.
>
> Then the Just Normally ParanoidCo. wrote"
>
> From: "JNPCo." <josephnewman@earthlink.net>
> To: David Crockett Williams <gear2000@lightspeed.net>
> Subject:    News conference update
> Date:    Mar 28, 2005 4:39 PM
>
> David --
>
>
> At the news conference the table-top-sized energy machine performed
> beautifully --  the latest innovation of the EM technology proved two
> things:
>
> Yeah, right, seemed like it, kind of, but you can't look under the
> lid.  Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Just note that
> the little wheel, with the two cool little lights, that's hooked up to
> a box of batteries, is spinning around, and be unquestioningly
> impressed.
>
> 1. Opponents of Joseph Newman do not deny that the technology produces
> significant torque,
>
> Here we have it:  "Opponents of Joseph Newman."  Except, how the heck
> can one affirm or deny whether this hatbox is doing anything other
> than spinning a little wheel with a couple of lights on it, if one
> can't look under the lid, because the Saviour wants to insure that his
> financial interests aren't threatened?
>
> Oh yeah, lest we forget, buy his book.
>
> 2. Opponents of Joseph Newman claim that the back-emf sparking
> produced by
> the energy machine is unmanageable and can never be controlled.  On
> Monday,
> March 28, 2005, Joseph Newman demonstrated complete control of that
> sparking
> effect.
>
> Here we have that same old paranoid rap again:  "Opponents of Joseph
> Newman."  The guy isn't even a worthy opponent.  Who' in their right
> would even want to waste time crossing mental swords with this
> imbecile?
>
> At one point during the presentation, one individual attempted to
> heckle
> Joseph Newman and challenge his integrity.  The heckler was then
> offered the
> following challenge by a news conference attendee from Michigan:  That
> Michigan attendee would put up $20,000 if the heckler would put up
> $5,000
> for a test of the technology.  If the machine was not found to operate
> as
> stated, then the heckler would be paid $20,000.  However, if the test
> confirmed the operation of the machine as stated, then the heckler
> would
> donate that $5,000 to a charity.
>
> "Integrity"??  Gimme a break.  Further on this paragraph is total
> bullshit.  But, nonetheless, instructive to some degree.  Instructive
> to the degree that these con artists are money oriented (20 grand). 
> But where the major bullshit comes in is that this fictional exchange
> with the "heckler" never occurred  ... at least no where near where,
> or under the circumstances claimed.  This Newman character, or some of
> his facilitators, had arranged for several video cameras to record his
> historical faux news conference.  So you needn't take my word on this
> particular issue, assuming these hucksters will release the videos
> (which they probably won't, because that would conclusively illustrate
> that they are bald faced liars), the videos will absolutely prove that
> this multi-thousand challenge did not occur at the "news" conference.
>
> Prove me wrong (please).  I was the alleged "heckler."  Mark Gubrud
> showed up for this alleged "news conference" at the request of myself
> , and/or the most dedicated fan of Swami Newman, David Crockett
> Williams.  As a physicist, Mark thought he was going to get a chance
> to peek under the lid of this amazing hatbox.  Well, the Swami nixed
> that.
>
> Anyway, what actually happened with respect to this big bucks deal was
> that AFTER we left the alleged news conference Thomas (that's me, the
> alleged heckler), and Mark were waiting for the elevator, far away
> from the alleged news conference.  At that time we were approached by
> Arthur W. Morris, a "certified microscopist," from Bloomfield Hills,
> Michigan (utillc@comcast.net).  It was then and there, at the
> elevator, far from Mr. Newman's snake oil show, and away from the
> video cameras (which is why these weasels won't document their flat
> out lies by providing a copy of that tape) that Mr. Morris offered to
> put up 20 grand against Mark's 20.  First, we should note that Mark
> wasn't the alleged heckler, it was I who was the alleged heckler. 
> Next, it wasn't the "heckler" who was made this generous offer, it was
> Mark, who wasn't a heckler.  Finally, again, this ridiculous bet
> (shucks, if I wanted to risk 20, 10, or even 5 grand, I'd go to Vegas
> and play blackjack before I'd bet with these sidewinders) was offered
> in front of the elevators, far and away from Mr. Newman's con game. 
> Consider the absurdity of this offer --  Mark and I where there
> specifically to "test of the technology," and these wily sons of guns
> wouldn't even let Mark peek under the lid.  Essentially, Mark
> indicated that Mr. Morris was coming out of far left field.  Then Mr.
> Morris reduced it to 10 grand for Mark, he was still offering 20. 
> Finally, he offered to let Mark go for 5 grand.  Can't remember
> exactly --- you know, these Newman guys, getting really crazy and all?
> -- but I think Mark told him something like go fly a kite.
>
> The heckler refused to accept that
> challenge and continued to heckle Joseph Newman.  Finally, Joseph
> Newman
> physically picked up the heckler by his sweater and forcibly carried
> him out
> of the room.  The media filmed the incident.  We believe the heckler's
> goal
> was to intentionally attempt to disrupt the news conference.
>
> Now this is the epitome of the bullshit.  Again, there was NO
> heckling.  What these misrepresenters of reality are pretending was
> "heckling," was actually my statement,  "One of your biggest fans,
> David Crockett Williams, invited him.  He's (Mark) a physicist and
> David said this would be an opportunity for Mark to examine your
> machine."
>
> Notice, the deceivers specifically mention that "The media filmed the
> incident."  Ask for a copy.  Bet they won't give it to you, because
> it'll prove they're lying.
>
> Oh, as a footnote, the lunatic "christian" did not forcibly carry me
> out of the room.  He just looked stupid, shook his fist in my face,
> and went back to his podium.  Then, after I'd stopped laughing, I
> invited him to meet me in the alley.  Gee, ya know, you try real hard
> to be a pacifist, but, it seems, you just can't help running into
> jerks that are just begging to have their necks broken.  God help me,
> what can I say?  Oh yeah, so after I invited the alterative energy
> avatar to the alley, Mark and I left the room, went to the elevator,
> where Mr. Morris offered his aforementioned absurd bet.
>
> In light of the foregoing, David, I hate to call these guys a bunch of
> unscrupulous, lying assholes, but what else can I honestly say:?
>
> Don't take my word for it.  Ask 'em for a copy of their faux news
> conference video with the part where the Savior allegedly put me out
> of the room.
>
> You know, David, that I like you, but when you get involved with
> characters like this it really hurts your credibility, because they
> have no integrity to speak of.
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> A postscript:
>
> Joseph Newman has challenged Mr. William Thomas to provide his STREET
> (MAILING) ADDRESS (NOT Post Office Box) and he will file a lawsuit
> against him for libel.
> 
> =========end fwd
> 
> From: David Crockett Williams <gear2000@lightspeed.net>
> To: Thomas <prop1@prop1.org>;
>  Evan Soule' - Joseph Newman Power Co <josephnewman@earthlink.net>
> Cc: Dr. Robert Park - American Physical Society - UMD College Park
>  Physics Department); Mark Avrum Gubrud; Dr. Jack Sarfatti PhD -
> - Stardrive.org - Internet Science Education Project; Eric Krieg
> Subject: Newman v Thomas libel lawsuit re Mar.28 DC Newman press
>  conference - Joseph Newman has challenged Mr. William Thomas and
> he will file a lawsuit against him for libel
> Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:20 PM
> 
> "Joseph Newman has challenged Mr. William Thomas to provide his
> STREET (MAILING) ADDRESS (NOT Post Office Box) and he will
> file a lawsuit against him for libel."  --  Evan Soule, Mar 29, 2005
> 4:05 PM
> 
> This would be a geat media attraction and would bring the truth of the
> matter into jurisdiction of public courts and all attendant news media
> attention - Hollywood style - line up your celebrities on both sides
> of the
> isle and "gentlemen, start your engines".  I will cheer this court case
> on, knowing Thomas will never give up and is qualified pro per legal
> beagle having fought his way pro per through the court systems to
> stay vigiling 24yrs across the street from the White House in Lafayette
> Park (White House Peace Park), and his court cases won and lost
> have precipitated changes in law as a result, eg, park service rules
> etc.
> Thomas has been roughed up by the best of them.  Will he pick up this
> gauntlet as the peoples champion to find the truth of the matter in
> court?
> http://www.prop1.org
> 
> Joseph Newman would never back down from such a court challenge
> to have his name vindicated as a truthful and honest man, and his
> Massergy Theory and Energy Machine seem the disputed issue to
> be adjudged by the courts as "true" or "fake/false," so he has now
> welcomed this as an opportunity to bring the truth into brighter light.
> http://www.josephnewman.com
> 
> Sounds like a real "Big Prize Fight" to me.  Let's get good tv
> coverage of this case in court, the sooner the better, asap.
> 
> Newman v Thomas, Round One, ding!
> 
> David Crockett Williams, Mar 29, 2005 5:12 PMpst
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