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Lynnferd Grant HHO Breakthrough

Started by goldenequity, November 14, 2008, 09:33:48 AM

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goldenequity

I'm SO glad to see genuine interest in this.... instead of mocking or dismissal. Thanks all.
This deserves to be verified and explored as so much time and so many people are using
their time and resources to push the envelope.  Heair Bear says he's been pursuing for over
a year.... thanks so much ALL for joining in and your comments so far. ;)

I found a pretty incredible resource page on vibrational data on water:
http://www.martin.chaplin.btinternet.co.uk/vibrat.html

It's WAY over my head but perhaps useful to those (if this indeed works) .... to help to explain
to the REST of us..... WHY it works to release HHO.

( I don't dismiss the sonoluminescence/sonoplasma theories by Lynnferd),
but combining mechanical (vibration)
and electro/chemical to stretch and break the covalent bond of water molecules (or any molecules)
makes good common sense to me.

Looking forward to replication attempts/reporting (good or bad).  ;D

Kator01

Hi all,

just a quck answer - because I am pretty busy - so you do not get impatient with all your enthousiasm.

@Luc : I am living in germany and a I might be of no help in finding these transformers in the US, but I will post some pics and some further hints. These transformers are used by any shopt which has outdoor neon-lights for its shopname etc for an eyecatcher during nightime. They usually have a powerrate of about 120 Watts. More later.


@goldenequity : I missed you in the emulsifier-thread. Are there any news on this subject ? I was sending a private message to Kampen asking about companies where he got this stuff from - but he simply did not answer to the point.

Sonoluminiscence is of utmost importance to the electrolysis-process. I do not think that you can break or stretch the Water-Molecule with ultrasonics. You will need much higher frequencies up into to infrared and ultravilolet range. Sonoluminsicence is just doing this - it creates UV. But energy is absorbed quickly by the surrounding water. Water absorbes UV-frequency.

It will be a very interesting experiment to combine this. A scientist once sent me a paper on sonoluminsicence. It was found that it even occurs at 10 KHz - but it is so weak and quick in appearance ( pico-seconds ) that it goes by unnoticed.

I come back later

Kator01


Kator01

Hi all,

@goldenequity : did you read this in your link :

"..The first peak in the far UV of gaseous water (166.5 nm [902], shown light blue in the spectrum above) is due to excitation from the occupied pz2-type molecular 1b1 orbital  (interactive orbitals are available, COW only [Plug-in, ActiveX]). Absorption of UV close-by (~125 nm), excites the 3a1 orbital leading to dissociation into OH + H (photodissociation; higher energy absorption produces charged fragments [1299]). Such dissociation can also be achieved by consecutive absorption of two 266 nm photons [589]. Absorption of two higher energy photons, at 200 nm, gives rise to a hydrated electron by H2O + hν -> H2O+ + e-aq [1057]. Inelastic x-ray scattering studies find this far UV peak to be absent in liquid water [355], where the major peak is at about 56 nm. [Back to Top to top of page]."

Kator01

Dave45

Very interesting topic, it ties in with an experiment done in 1965 by Doctor X  http://keelynet.com/energy/docx.htm

Kator01

Hi folks,

now please find attached two pics of my neon-transformer. It is produced in intaly and the distributor- company here in germany is Tecnolux. Dimension of this 50 VA transfrmer ( at 4000 Volt, 28 KHz ) is 14 cm in length, 5 cm in width and height about 3 cm.

I was asking a technician of this company how the output-stage is constructed and he said it is simply a pure open  seconday-coil of the transformer which is driven with 28 KHz.

@Luc : this does not leave much room for speculation. I can only be a distorted sinus which might
get shaped to a puls under load. It is difficult to measure - I neef a sniffler-coil.

I will try to phone this person again to find out more details on the controller. But I guess it is operating in a switched mode.

Here are two additional links on cell-design and chemical treatment of water for better gas-output which are very informative from what I have seen in the first two videos :
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=livehazelgreentraffi&view=videos

This guy here has constructed  a very good flash-back-arrestor and i am still looking to a video where he puts 3 spoons of backing-soda in a jar of about 500 ml of water and then adds very slowly destilled vinegar in the water. The chemical reaction releases a lot of CO2, but then the reaction during electrolysis is quite heavy.
http://www.youtube.com/user/pjckac1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgpmlMQD1F0

Now I found it. Is is on the uawinfo.com . You have to scroll down to the dark-red-diary-entrance:
“New Test On February 21, 2008“
And her you find the two videos demonstrating the booster-effect.
http://www.uawinfo.com/UAWINFO_HHO_GAS/uawinfo1.htm

Kator01